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Season 4.5 Final Cylon Spoilers
2/19/09: "The Final Five were polytheists until they met the Centurions, who were monotheists." From Chicago Tribune
2/19/09: Earth was destroyed because the Cylons' "metal battlebots" turned on them. From Chicago Tribune
2/17/09: According to Bear McCreary, episode 416 ("Deadlock") will provide more "back story and details of the lives of the Final Five." He added, "the unusual amount of fast-paced and essential dialog in these two shows left little room for big musical statements." From Bear's Battlestar Blog [Hopefully, this will fill in some of the blanks left in "No Exit."]
2/17/09: According to Kate Vernon, Ellen arc ends with "a peaceful resonance, a mythical resonance at the end." From Zap2It
2/8/09: Ellen says, "I'd do it all again." Ellen awakens in a resurrection tub, alone. Anders, all bandaged up, tells Kara, "Listen to me. A wonderful thing has happened. You have to get the others. Several rapid images: Temple of Five; Anders and Connor [That's purely a guess since we couldn't make out much detail.]; Ellen escorted down a hall by a Centurion; A Raptor [?]. Tyrol looking at something [Likely that new area already glimpsed pics from NBC's photo bank, which is apparently down in the engine room.]; Adama looking at something [Likely part of the preview scene where Adama notices a crack in the bulkhead in his quarters.]; a POV shot of Kara [It looks like it's from Anders' perspective from a bed in sickbay.]; Anders says, "I remember everything... Earth. Why we're here. Everything." From Space (Canadian) Promo for Episode 415 [Looks like we get some answers about the Final Five. Ellen is on a Cylon ship, but there's an absence of humanoid models, so again we think this is related to that splinter faction of Centurions that was with the First Hybrid. They were referred to as Guardians, but once the First Hybrid was dead, they didn't seem to have anything to guard. However, it's possible that guarding the Final Five might have been their true duty.]
1/30/09: When she returns, Ellen does lots of "walking and talking" and apparently has a "tremendous amount of dialogue." From Ron Moore/Kate Vernon Interview [We're guessing that the tremendous amount of dialogue means that Ellen has some major exposition (hopefully, explanation) when she first returns.]
1/23/09: The creditibility (and thus his spoilers) of the SciFi Channel Forums poster has been called into question. Though we did read through some of the more recent threads that appeared to be on the "up and up," we had neither the time nor inclination to go back over his entire posting history. As a result, we welcome evidence that his most recent spoilers that we posted actually came from other sources. In the meantime, we're committed to not revising anything we post so we're stuck with his 'spoilers' for the next four episodes even if we end up wearing a little egg on our faces. [From TPR]
1/20/09: More spoilers for the next four episodes from the poster who indicated that Ellen was the Fifth: The Final Five aren't "bad," just negligent and Baltar knew that Ellen was a Cylon since the blood tests. Speaking of Ellen, she apparently returns in episode 413. From SciFi Channel Forums
1/19/09: Ron Moore had this to say about the Final Five, "At this point, I think that you've seen a lot of how these arcs will play themsevles out, but I can tell you that there are more answers ahead for the Final Five particularly in terms of understanding exactly their responsibilities for the events we've seen transpire." From MediaBlvd [Note that he said 'five' and not 'four', so Ellen is in that mix.]
1/18/09: When asked will we "come to know, in this next set of episodes, who knew that Ellen was a Cylon, and that will play out in what's coming?" Ron Moore simply answered, "yes." From Chicago Tribune [We can't help but think that Cavil has known more about the Final Five than he let on. The question is whether anyone else did too.]
1/18/09: When Kate Vernon was asked about whether there would be "fireworks" when Ellen and Tigh were reunited because Saul had poisoned her, Vernon answered that Ellen "is beyond that. She understands that that needed to happen at that time... There's a very happy reunion... only the way Ellen and Saul can express it." She also refers to her and Saul as being hybrids or "half and half." Apparently, how Ellen comes back has to do with her "job" or "destiny... in the bigger picture." She says that when Ellen returns, she was finally written in a "much broader, richer, deeper" way. When she was asked about Tigh seeing her in Caprica Six, she says that Six was not modelled after Ellen. From Access Hollywood [So Ellen is indeed "reborn" and reunited with Saul. Who would have thought that Saul and Ellen would be the BSG couple to literally have an eternal love story? When Ellen returns, she is apparently enlightened a bit and might have a storyline that doesn't largely involve partying and/or sleeping around. What will her return mean for Tigh's relationship with Caprica Six? And the unborn child?]
1/17/09: Ellen Tigh appears in seven of the last nine episodes. From Los Angeles Times [Looks as though the reveal of Ellen as the Final Cylon in Episode 411 is just the beginning of that storyline.]
1/15/09: Ron Moore says that 'keys to the Cylons' mysterious past will be found amidst Earth's ruins.' From TV Guide [That pretty much confirms (again) what Aaron Douglas spoiled months ago.]
1/14/09: The Final Five "pre-date almost everyone" and are "basically responsible for the state of things - on both sides - the Colonial Fleet and the Cylon world." The identity of the Final Five was held back "in part because the writers were arguing who they should be. Honestly." The fifth, like the other four, didn't know he/she was a Cylon. "All skinjobs, including the Final Five, are the manifestation of the bridge between human and Cylon/machine on much more than just a physical level, if that makes sense. "From Newsarama [If they didn't know who the five would be, things couldn't have been planned out too much. And there was another "hint" that the Last Supper promo pic clues you in.]
1/13/09: The Episode 411 (production #413) shooting guide lists Ellen Tigh as appearing. That seems to lend more credance to her being the final Cylon [or Tigh has gotten drunk and is either having a flashback or one of his visions]. Also of note is that her and Saul Tigh's stunt doubles are listed. From BSG Props Auction Website [Thanks to Werthead for sending the link our way.]
1/10/09: Updated Speculation from TPR
1/10/09: The Final Cylon appears on the newly found Earth in Episode 411. From SciFi Channel Forums [We already knew the fifth would be revealed in that episode. It was hinted that it would be revealed to the audience and not necessarily the characters. Now with the appearance being on Earth, we wonder if the fifth appears to D'Anna who is left behind. And if the fifth appears on Earth, who does it appear to and does it end up with the fleet after it leaves? Also, the poster had been convinced that Ellen was the final Cylon although he seems to possibly backtrack in his latest posts.]
11/30/08: SciFi Channel has put up a "You Will Know The Truth" site with daily clues about the identity of the Final Cylon and other "mysteries" leading up to the January 16th premier. So far, the Hybrid's quote about the Fifth Cylon seen in the Razor extended cut and President Lee dropping a muted-out hint about the Fifth have appeared. From SciFi Channel [This could possibly be interpreted as supporting Aaron Douglas' spoiler that indicated the Final Cylon would be revealed at least to the audience in episode 411.]
9/24/08: According to Kristin, Tricia Helfer stated, "We will find out who the fifth Cylon is a lot earlier than the series finale-it comes up early in the last 10 episodes." From EOnline [This is confirmation of what Aaron Douglas long ago said that the fifth Cylon is revealed sooner rather than later in Season 4.5.]
7/16/08: Either a confirmation of Aaron Douglas' comments (or perhaps creative rehashing), another source claims that the showrunners intended for the Final Cylon to be revealed before the mid-season hiatus and that the revealed final Cylon is key to the direction of the second-half storylines. [This does fit with previous news that the showrunners had intended that both parts of the mid-season two-parter be aired before the hiatus.]
7/8/08: SciFi Channel's Mark Stern describes the reveal of the Final Cylon as "organic and satisfying. It won't be some day player from Season 1." From TV Guide
7/6/08: Aaron Douglas' comments during the writers' strike regarding the Final Cylon: "I was curious quite a bit but it was certainly a shock when I found out who it is. I never would have expected that person. It is revealed in the last thing we shot so if we don't come back, that will be the end of the show." From Aaron Douglas Interview [This seems to indicate that the Final Cylon is revealed in episode 411, which was the last filmed before the strike. Aaron's comments fit with the mid-season teaser that had Tigh addressing someone as the fifth Cylon.]
6/17/08: According to Ron Moore, the Final Five Cylons don't have model numbers. From EW.com Interview [So much for Tyrol being the twelfth Cylon as Aaron Douglas wanted. So whatever happen to the Sevens then?]
6/15/08: In an interview that took place after the airing of the death of Cally, Aaron Douglas had this to say about finding out about the Final Cylon: "I don't know if you'll know in the first ten, but somewhere around there." From MediaBlvd Magazine Interview [This is the first indication that we'd find out well before the closing episodes of the series.]
4/6/08: According to Ron Moore, the reveal of the final Cylon "will be late in the season, it won't be in the first half." From dwscifi.com Interview
4/2/08: Ron Moore reiterated that no one in the Last Supper promotional photo is the Final Cylon. From Ron Moore Chicago Tribune Interview [We already knew that Head Six, Natalie and Athena were the humanoid Cylons models, while Tigh, Tyrol and Anders were part of the four just revealed. That leaves Roslin, Lee, Baltar, Starbuck, Helo and Adama as seemingly eliminated from being Cylons.]
3/29/08: The cast has been told who the final Cylon is, although Katee Sackhoff seems skeptical that whoever they were told really is the final Cylon. From Macleans.ca Park/Sackhoff Interview
3/22/08: Ron Moore claims that the final Cylon is not one of the primary humans (Roslin, Adama, Lee, Starbuck or Baltar). From TV Guide
3/20/08: Natalie says, "the final five are in your fleet." From SciFi Channel Network Upfront Preview [Five, not four. This also seems to hint at the possibility of that Cylon-human alliance if Natalie is close enough to be speaking to someone in the fleet.]
2/9/07: The new Number Six, Natalie, tells the other humanoid models that "it's time to unite the twelve models once and for all." From SciFi Channel [We assume that includes the final Cylon.]
1/30/07: General spoilers indicate that the first half of the season has three main storylines: the search for Earth with the Kara complications, how the four newly revealed Cylons deal with their identity and the splintering of the Cylons over Earth and the Final Five. The second half of the season [if filmed] would seem to have two main storylines: dealing with the fallout of finding Earth and discovering the identity of the Final Cylon.
1/30/07: Three's (Lucy Lawless) unboxing has to do with what she might know about the Final Five. [This seems to tie in with the long ago spoiler that her appearance would trigger the storyline for the latter half of the fourth season... if it gets filmed.]
1/24/08: Tyrol is the 12th Cylon model. Aaron Douglas @livejournal
1/13/08: In the extended cut found only on the Battlestar Galactica: Razor DVD, the hybrid could be heard to say this as the rescue team moved through the basestar: "At last they've come for me. I feel their lives, their destinies spilling out before me. The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough. Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening. Struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity. And in the midst of confusion he will find her, enemies brought together by impossible longing, enemies now joined as one. The way forward, at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. I can see them all. The seven, now six, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin. But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of the one splintering into the many. And then they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning." [Guess that's a hint about the final Cylon, as well as foreshadowing of the rumored Cylon civil war]
1/13/08: In Battlestar Galactica: Razor, the hybrid had this to say to Kendra: "Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of Death. They must not follow her. All this has happened before and all of it will happen again, again, again..."
1/12/08: EW.com has posted a BSG promotional photo with some vague hints from Ron Moore in which he seems to indicate that the final Cylon is NOT in the picture. [We're not putting a lot of stock in that clue just yet.]
1/12/08: Kara claims that she has been to Earth and has to repeat it several times since it is not believed. Because of accusations and the missing time, Kara even begins to question if the Cylons captured her, brainwashed her or if she's a Cylon. There's a scene in the Memorial Hall where she's considering this and Anders is there trying to be supportive. She tells Adama that he thought of her as his daughter and now he needs to trust her. He says that he can't afford to. In another scene, she tells Adama that they are going the wrong way. From Canadian Hypaspace Preview
11/21/07: At a convention appearance, Katee Sackhoff indicated that Kara spent a lot of time in the brig as well as with Leoben. She also has plenty of scenes with Roslin. Kara also comes to believe that she is a Cylon. At some point, Kara builds a bonfire on a beach. From Roadrunner's LiveJournal
11/3/07: Episode 11: This episode is "set deep in the Cylon world, as well as aboard Galactica. 'On Galactica, things have really begun to fall apart ... and the relationship between President Laura Roslin [Mary McDonnell] and Adm. William Adama [Edward James Olmos] is going to get pretty interesting'." From Los Angeles Times [This seems to contradict the spoilers about Roslin dying around midseason. Perhaps that breakdown of Adama's is for other reasons.]
11/1/07: In Episode 1 ("He That Believath in Me"), Lee is the first to greet Kara and she's surprised because she thinks she's only been gone for six hours. Anders is at first excited to see his estranged wife, then he's worried that she might know he's a Cylon. The other three (Tigh, Tory and Tyrol) task him with trying to pick some information from Kara. This leads to his line [seen in the promos] about saying that if she were a Cylon, he'd still love her. Her response is underwhelming and continues the strained ties between the two. From Cult Times Interview with Michael Trucco
10/14/07: In Razor's last 20 minutes, the film features a faction of Cylons who are responsible for protecting the "Guardian." This is something that carries over as a subplot into the fourth season. From Eclipse Magazine Review
10/14/07: Tigh asks Adama if he believes in miracles and Adama says that he doesn't. Caprica Six tells Roslin that she can feel that the final five are close. Roslin, wearing what looks to be a hospital gown, fires a gun. A woman [Roslin?] tells Adama that it's a Cylon trick. Tigh takes a pistol out of his locker. In CIC Tigh points the gun across at Adama [or whoever is standing next to Adama] while can be heard asking what he's doing. Baltar's cult thinks of him as a healer, while he seeks some hope for the future. Roslin asks Starbuck how she got "here." Adama shakes Starbuck as she can be heard asking why they can't trust her. She also says that she saw Earth. Anders tells Starbuck that if she's a Cylon then she has been since the beginning. Cylons, including an Eight, a Six and a Cavil are seen. Lastly, Kara lays on the deck and screams, "We're going the wrong way." From SciFi Channel Season 4 Promo
8/10/07: Episode 5: In spite of the Adama/Starbuck conflict, he decides that he has to trust her in order to find Earth so he sends her on a mission to the Demetrius.
8/10/07: Episode 4 ("Escape Velocity"):Various spoilers seem to be pointing to a bit of a civil war breaking out within the Cylon once they learn that four of the remaining models are in the human fleet. This leads to dissention over whether or not to continue to attack the human fleet. Apparently, three models (all of the same gender) will be entirely wiped out with the help of the Cylon Centurions. [Not sure if all of this takes place in episode four or that's just where the arc starts.]
8/10/07: The name for the 13th Colony in the Scripture is 'Cylon'. From Ausiello
7/4/07: Aaron Douglas spilled that the Final Five Cylons are completely different and set apart from the other seven human models. According to the press article, these five aren't even Cylons (at least the modern version first created in the colonies), but rather immortal. These five fit with the "it's all happened before and will happen again" mantra. From MediaBlvd Magazine [The bit from Aaron Douglas isn't really anything new. The part about how they fit into the Cylon history is new, but we again wonder how much of it is actually speculation.]
7/4/07: During the digital media tour, the press saw a completely rebuilt (shiny new) Viper, which looks matches the Viper that Starbuck was seen flying the finale. The fact that it's been rebuilt sparks suspicion in the fleet that Starbuck is a Cylon. From MediaBlvd Magazine [This seems to match with what Katee Sackhoff hinted in previous interviews.]
6/23/07: Apparently early in the season, there is suspicion in the fleet that Kara is a Cylon as Katee Sackhoff says that she does a lot of screaming including about not being a Cylon.
6/23/07: Episode 3 ("The Tie That Binds"): According to Katee Sackhoff, the fifth Cylon has not been revealed yet.
6/3/07: The final five Cylons' "true" backstories will be revealed. From Lower Hudson Online Blog
6/3/07: The season will end with a definitive end to the "quest." Though not discounting the possibility of miniseries or movies, the main storyline will be completed [unlike Stargate SG-1's unresolved Ori storyline]. From Lower Hudson Online Blog
4/17/07: On the Cylons: "The plan is as we go into the next season or so, to start bringing more of that to the fore and tying it into everything else that's been going on in the show. If you take the story all the way to the end, you do need to give the audience some answers to some of these things. Maybe not everything. There's probably some elements that we will leave mysterious even after the show is over. But I think you have to at least ground the audience in some reality for some of these things that have happened. Even if the explanation is a supernatural one, you want to give them some explanation and feel a payoff for the time and effort they've put into the show up to that point." From Ron Moore Interview with AV Club
4/15/07: Neither Adama nor Roslin is the final Cylon. It was decided that having either be Cylons would strain the credibility of the show. From Ron Moore Season Finale Q&A Podcast
4/15/07: RDM on whether the fourth season would be the last: "The show has really moved into the third act in the three-act structure where we're all moving towards the finale and the climax of all these different plot lines. In my head there's two chapters to go in the story and those can be of varying lengths." From Ron Moore Interview with MTV [Finding Earth is one chapter. TPR assumes the newly discovered Cylons and the Final Five make up the other chapter.]
3/27/07: There have already been clues about the identity of the fifth Cylon. From Ron Moore Q&A on SciFi.com Boards [However, in other interviews he wouldn't commit to whether we've already seen this fifth Cylon.]
3/26/07: There is a developing storyline concerning what D'Anna saw and who she was talking to when she saw the Final Five, but Lucy Lawless has not yet been contacted and her availability (due to filming the pilot of Footballers' Wives) might be an issue. Ron Moore Interview with Post-Gazette.com
3/26/07: The fifth Cylon might or might not be revealed during the fourth season. From Ron Moore Interview with Post-Gazette.com
3/26/07: Anders, Tigh, Tory and Tyrol are full Cylons, but "different fundamentally." From Ron Moore Interview with Post-Gazette.com
3/26/07: RDM's comments on the significance of the the four hearing the music: "It's more that they arrived at a certain point in space and they were made aware of who they are. The music manifests a dawning awareness. These are four of the final five, which puts them in a separate category from everybody else. There are reasons for that I can't really get into. We'll be playing out those plot lines for quite a while." From Ron Moore Interview with Post-Gazette.com
3/10/07: RDM response to a question about winging it with the mythology: "I began to put into place most of the fundamental cosmology of the BSG universe as far back as the first season. Since then, we've talked it over in the writers' room periodically so as to keep everything within the same parameters. There are still some elements to put into place, but we pretty much have it worked out by now." From Ronald D. Moore Q&A @ SciFi.com Board
3/9/07: Jane Espenson recently had this to say about whether the showrunners had a plan: "So imagine my delight when I recently began full-time at BSG and learned that there are (and have been) plans that extend far longer into the future than one season!" From SyFy Portal Interview
2/21/07: David Eick confirmed that a familiar character would be revealed in Season 3 to be one of the final five Cylons, but had this to say when asked about the last four: "I think the audience has to start by asking the question, 'What really defines a Cylon?' That's part of what Season 4 is really going to be dedicated to. And the tip of that iceberg will be introduced in the season finale." From Ask Ausiello






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