Conference with United Kingdom Prime Minister Tony Blair
The Cross Hall
The White House
July 17, 2003
5:29 P.M. EDT
PRESIDENT BUSH: Good afternoon. It is, once again, a pleasure to welcome
the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, and Cherie Blair to the White House. Mr. Prime
Minister, fabulous speech. Congratulations. (Applause.)
In his address to Congress this afternoon, Prime Minister Blair once again
showed the qualities that have marked his entire career. Tony Blair is a
leader of conviction, of passion, of moral clarity, and eloquence. He is
a true friend of the American people. The United Kingdom has produced some
of the world's most distinguished statesmen, and I'm proud to be standing
with one of them today.
The close partnership between the United States and Great Britain has been
and remains essential to the peace and security of all nations. For more
than 40 years of the Cold War we stood together to ensure that the conflicts
of Europe did not once again destroy the peace of the world. The duties we
accepted were demanding, as we found during the Berlin Blockade and other
crises. Yet, British and American leaders held firm and our cause prevailed.
Now we are joined in another great and difficult mission. On September the
11th, 2001, America, Britain and all free nations saw how the ideologies
of hatred and terror in a distant part of the world could bring violence
and grief to our own citizens. We resolved to fight these threats actively,
wherever they gather, before they reach our shores. And we resolved to oppose
these threats by promoting freedom and democracy in the Middle East, a region
that has known so much bitterness and resentment.
From the outset, the Prime Minister and I have understood that we are allies
in this war -- a war requiring great effort and patience and fortitude. The
British and American peoples will hold firm once again, and we will prevail.
The United States and Great Britain have conducted a steady offensive against
terrorist networks and terror regimes. We're dismantling the al Qaeda network,
leader by leader, and we're hunting down the terrorist killers one by one.
In Afghanistan, we removed the cruel and oppressive regime that had turned
that country into a training camp for al Qaeda, and now we are helping the
Afghan people to restore their nation and regain self-government.
In Iraq, the United States, Britain and other nations confronted a violent
regime that armed to threaten the peace, that cultivated ties to terror and
defied the clear demands of the United Nations Security Council. Saddam Hussein
produced and possessed chemical and biological weapons and was trying to
reconstitute his nuclear weapons program. He used chemical weapons in acts
of murder against his own people.
The U.N. Security Council, acting on information it had acquired over many
years, passed more than a dozen resolutions demanding that the dictator reveal
and destroy all of his prohibited weapons. A final Security Council resolution
promised serious consequences if he continued his defiance. The former dictator
of Iraq chose his course of action; and, for the sake of peace and security,
we chose ours.
The Prime Minister and I have no greater responsibility than to protect
the lives and security of the people we serve. The regime of Saddam Hussein
was a grave and growing threat. Given Saddam's history of violence and aggression,
it would have been reckless to place our trust in his sanity or his restraint.
As long as I hold this office, I will never risk the lives of American citizens
by assuming the goodwill of dangerous enemies.
Acting together, the United States, Great Britain and our coalition partners
enforced the demands of the world. We ended the threat from Saddam Hussein's
weapons of mass destruction. We rid the Middle East of an aggressive, destabalizing
regime. We liberated nearly 25 million people from decades of oppression.
And we are now helping the Iraqi people to build a free nation.
In Iraq, as elsewhere, freedom and self-government are hated and opposed
by a radical and ruthless few. American, British and other forces are facing
remnants of a fallen regime and other extremists. Their attacks follow a
pattern. They target progress and success. They strike at Iraqi police officers
who have been trained to enforce order. They sabotage Iraqi power grids that
we're rebuilding. They are the enemies of the Iraqi people.
Defeating these terrorists is an essential commitment on the war on terror.
This is a duty we accept. This is a fight we will win. We are being tested
in Iraq. Our enemies are looking for signs of hesitation. They're looking
for weakness. They will find none. Instead, our forces in Iraq are finding
these killers and bringing them to justice.
And we will finish the task of helping Iraqis make the challenging transition
to democracy. Iraq's governing council is now meeting regularly. Soon the
council will nominate ministers and propose a budget. After decades of tyranny,
the institutions of democracy will take time to create. America and Britain
will help the Iraqi people as long as necessary. Prime Minister Blair and
I have the same goal -- the government and the future of Iraq will be in
the hands of the people of Iraq.
The creation of a strong and stable Iraqi democracy is not easy, but it's
an essential part on the war against terror. A free Iraq will be an example
to the entire Middle East, and the advance of liberty in the Middle East
will undermine the ideologies of terror and hatred. It will help strengthen
the security of America and Britain and many other nations.
By helping to build and secure a free Iraq, by accepting the risks and sacrifice,
our men and women in uniform are protecting our own countries, and they're
giving essential service in the war on terror. This is the work history has
given us, and we will complete it.
We're seeing movement toward reform and freedom in other parts of the Middle
East. The leadership and courage of Prime Minister Abbas and Prime Minister
Sharon are giving their peoples new hope for progress. Other nations can
add to the momentum of peace by fighting terror in all its forms. A Palestinian
state will be built upon hope and reform, not built upon violence.
Terrorists are the chief enemies of Palestinian aspirations. The sooner
terrorism is rooted out by all the governments in the region, the sooner
the Palestinian flag will rise over a peaceful Palestinian state.
The spread of liberty in Afghanistan and Iraq and across the Middle East
will mark a hopeful turn in the history of our time. Great Britain and America
will achieve this goal together. And one of the reasons I'm confident in
our success is because the character and the leadership of Prime Minister
Mr. Prime Minister.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Thank you, Mr. President. And first of all, as I did
a short time ago, I would like to pay tribute to your leadership in these
difficult times. Because ever since September the 11th, the task of leadership
has been an arduous one, and I believe that you have fulfilled it with tremendous
conviction, determination and courage.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you, sir.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: And I think it's as well that we understand how this
has all come about. It came about because we realized that there was a new
source of threat and insecurity in our world that we had to counter. And
as I was saying in my speech to Congress, this threat is sometimes hard for
people to understand, because it's of such a different nature than the threats
we have faced before, but September the 11th taught us it was real.
And when you lead countries, as we both do, and you see the potential for
this threat of terrorism and weapons of mass destruction to come together,
I really don't believe that any responsible leader could ignore the evidence
that we see, or the threat that we face. And that's why we've taken the action
that we have, first in Afghanistan, and now in Iraq.
And in Afghanistan, we acted to remove the Taliban, and we still pursue
the al Qaeda terrorist network there and in other parts of the world. But
there is no doubt at all that, but for that action, al Qaeda would have retained
its central place of command and control which now is denied to it.
And in respect to Iraq, we should not forget Resolution 1441 that was passed
in the United Nations, in which the entire international community accepted
the threat that Iraq constituted.
I think it's just worth pointing out, in these last few days, Iraq has had
a governing council established, with the help of the United Nations representative
Sergio de Mello. And in the last two weeks, the United Nations has spoken
about the numbers of missing people and mass graves. And that number, just
on the present count, is round about 300,000 people.
So let us be clear: We have been dealing with a situation in which the threat
was very clear and the person, Saddam Hussein, wielding that threat, someone
of total brutality and ruthlessness, with no compunction about killing his
own people or those of another nation.
And, of course, it's difficult to reconstruct Iraq. It's going to be a hard
task. We never expected otherwise. But as the President has said to you a
moment or two ago, the benefit of that reconstruction will be felt far beyond
the territory of Iraq. It is, as I said earlier today, an indispensable part
of bringing about a new settlement in the whole of the Middle East.
And I would also pay tribute to the President's leadership in the Middle
East and in rekindling the prospect of the Middle East peace process. If
I can remind people, I think many people were cynical as to whether this
could ever be rekindled. Many people doubted whether the commitment was there,
to fairness for Palestinian people, as well as to the state of Israel. And
yet the President has stated very clearly the goal of a two-state solution.
And now we actually have the first steps, albeit tentative, toward achieving
And when I met Prime Minister Sharon in London a few nights ago, I was more
than ever convinced that if we could provide the right framework within which
these tentative steps are made, then we do, genuinely, have the prospect
of making progress there.
And then, again, as I was saying earlier, the commitment that America has
now given, that the President has given, in respect of Africa, in tackling
some of the poorest parts of our world, is again a sign of hope. And all
these things are changing our world. And however difficult the change may
be, I genuinely believe it is change for the better.
So I am honored once again to be here in the White House, with you, Mr.
President. As I said earlier, we are allies and we are friends. And I believe
that the work that we are embarked upon is difficult, but is essential, and
so far as we are concerned, we shall hold to it, ride the way through.
THE PRESIDENT: We'll take a couple of questions. Tom.
QUESTION: Mr. President, others in your administration have said your words on Iraq
and Africa did not belong in your State of the Union address. Will you take
personal responsibility for those words? And to both of you, how is it that
two major world leaders such as yourselves have had such a hard time persuading
other major powers to help stabilize Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: First, I take responsibility for putting our troops into
action. And I made that decision because Saddam Hussein was a threat to our
security and a threat to the security of other nations.
I take responsibility for making the decision, the tough decision, to put
together a coalition to remove Saddam Hussein. Because the intelligence --
not only our intelligence, but the intelligence of this great country --
made a clear and compelling case that Saddam Hussein was a threat to security
I say that because he possessed chemical weapons and biological weapons.
I strongly believe he was trying to reconstitute his nuclear weapons program.
And I will remind the skeptics that in 1991, it became clear that Saddam
Hussein was much closer to developing a nuclear weapon than anybody ever
imagined. He was a threat. I take responsibility for dealing with that threat.
We are in a war against terror. And we will continue to fight that war against
terror. We're after al Qaeda, as the Prime Minister accurately noted, and
we're dismantling al Qaeda. The removal of Saddam Hussein is an integral
part of winning the war against terror. A free Iraq will make it much less
likely that we'll find violence in that immediate neighborhood. A free Iraq
will make it more likely we'll get a Middle Eastern peace. A free Iraq will
have incredible influence on the states that could potentially unleash terrorist
activities on us. And, yeah, I take responsibility for making the decisions
QUESTION: Mr. President --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Hold on for a second, please.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: First of all, before I answer the question you put
to me about other countries helping us, let me just say this on the issue
to do with Africa and uranium. The British intelligence that we had we believe
is genuine. We stand by that intelligence. And one interesting fact I think
people don't generally know, in case people should think that the whole idea
of a link between Iraq and Niger was some invention, in the 1980s we know
for sure that Iraq purchased round about 270 tons of uranium from Niger.
So I think we should just factor that into our thinking there.
As for other countries, actually, other countries are coming in. We have
with us now round about nine other countries who will be contributing or
are contributing literally thousands of troops. I think I'm right in saying
the Poles in their sector have somewhere in the region of 20 different countries
offering support. And I have no doubt at all we will have international support
in this. Indeed, to be fair, even to those countries that opposed the action,
I think they recognize the huge importance of reconstructing Iraq.
And it's an interesting thing, I was at a European meeting just a couple
of weeks ago, where, as you know, there were big differences between people
over the issue of Iraq. And yet, I was struck by the absolutely unanimous
view that whatever people felt about the conflict, it was obviously good
that Saddam was out, and most people now recognize that the important thing
is that we all work together to reconstruct Iraq for the better so that it
is a free and stable country.
QUESTION: I wonder if I could ask you both about one aspect of Iraq and freedom
and justice which, as you know, is causing a great deal of concern in Britain
and the British Parliament. That is, what happens now in Guantanamo Bay to
the people detained there, particularly whether there's any chance that the
President will return the British citizens to face British justice, as John
Walker Lindh faced regular American justice?
And just on a quick point, could the Prime Minister react to the decision
of the Foreign Affairs Committee tonight that the BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan
is a "unsatisfactory witness"?
PRESIDENT BUSH: You probably ought to comment on that one. (Laughter.)
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Can I just say to you on the first point, obviously,
this is an issue that we will discuss when we begin our talks tonight, and
we will put out a statement on that tomorrow for you.
PRESIDENT BUSH: We will work with the Blair government on this issue. And
we're about to -- after we finish answering your questions, we're going to
go upstairs and discuss the issue.
QUESTION: Do you have concerns they're not getting justice, the people detained
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, the only thing I know for certain is that these are
bad people, and we look forward to working closely with the Blair government
to deal with the issue.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: On your other point, Adam, the issue here is very,
very simple. The whole debate, for weeks, revolved around a claim that either
I or a member of my staff had effectively inserted intelligence into the
dossier we put before the British people against the wishes of the intelligence
services. Now, that is a serious charge. It never was true. Everybody now
knows that that charge is untrue. And all we are saying is, those who made
that charge should simply accept that it is untrue. It's as simple as that.
THE PRESIDENT: Patsy, Reuters.
QUESTION: Mr. President, in his speech to Congress, the Prime Minister opened the
door to the possibility that you may be proved wrong about the threat from
Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.
QUESTION: Do you agree, and does it matter whether or not you find these weapons?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, you might ask the Prime Minister that. We won't be
proven wrong --
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: No.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I believe that we will find the truth. And the truth is,
he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction.
Now, you say, why didn't it happen all of a sudden? Well, there was a lot
of chaos in the country, one. Two, Saddam Hussein has spent over a decade
hiding weapons and hiding materials. Three, we're getting -- we're just beginning
to get some cooperation from some of the high-level officials in that administration
or that regime.
But we will bring the weapons and, of course -- we will bring the information
forward on the weapons when they find them. And that will end up -- end all
this speculation. I understand there has been a lot of speculation over in
Great Britain, we've got a little bit of it here, about whether or not the
-- whether or not the actions were based upon valid information. We can debate
that all day long, until the truth shows up. And that's what's going to happen.
And we based our decisions on good, sound intelligence. And the -- our people
are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence
was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind.
THE PRIME MINISTER: If I can just correct you on one thing. I certainly
did not say that I would be proved wrong. On the contrary; I said with every
fiber of instinct and conviction I believe that we are right. And let me
just say this one other thing to you, because sometimes, again, in the debate
in the past few weeks, it's as if, prior to the early part of this year,
the issue of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction were some sort
of unknown quantity, and on the basis of some speculative intelligence, we
go off and take action.
The history of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction is a 12-year
history, and is a history of him using the weapons, developing the weapons,
and concealing the weapons, and not complying with the United Nations inspectors
who were trying to shut down his programs. And I simply say -- which is why
I totally agree with the President -- it's important we wait for the Iraq
survey group to complete their work. Because the proposition that actually
he was not developing such weapons and such programs rests on this rather
extraordinary proposition that, having for years obstructed the United Nations
inspectors and concealed his programs, having finally effectively got rid
of them in December '98, he then took all the problems and sanctions and
action upon himself, voluntarily destroyed them but just didn't tell anyone.
I don't think that's very likely as a proposition. I really don't.
QUESTION: Nick Robinson, ITV News. Mr. President, do you realize that many people
hearing you say that we know these are bad people in Guantanamo Bay will
merely fuel their doubts that the United States regards them as innocent
until proven guilty and due a fair, free and open trial?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, let me just say these were illegal combatants. They
were picked up off the battlefield aiding and abetting the Taliban. I'm not
trying to try them in front of your cameras or in your newspaper.
But we will talk with the Prime Minister about this issue. He's asked. Prior
to his arrival, he said, I want to talk about this in a serious way, can
we work with you? And the answer is, absolutely. I understand the issue.
And we will. We'll have a very good discussion about it -- right after he
finishes answering this aspect of your question.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: I just think you should realize -- I mean, of course,
as I said a moment or two ago, we will discuss this together and we'll put
out a statement for you tomorrow. But I think, again, it's important just
to realize the context in which all this arises, without saying anything
about any specific case at all. And the context was a situation in which
the al Qaeda and the Taliban were operating together in Afghanistan against
American and British forces. So, as I say, we will discuss this issue, we
will come back to it, you will have a statement tomorrow.
But I want to say just in concluding, once again, that the conviction that
this threat of terrorism and weapons of mass destruction is the security
threat our world faces has never left me. It's with me now, and I believe
it to be the threat that we have to take on and defeat. I really do.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Good job. Thank you. I appreciate your coming.