Strong Position on Liberia
Photo Opportunity with United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan
The Oval Office
The White House
July 14, 2003
2:11 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: I'm so honored that Kofi Annan has come back to the Oval Office.
We've had a great discussion. I briefed him on my trip to Africa, his native
continent. And I told him that I was most impressed with the possibilities
of the continent. I saw the potential and I also saw many of the problems.
And I want to thank the Secretary General for his work on hunger and HIV/AIDS.
We have got a -- we're going to work closely with him to help defeat the pandemic.
The other thing we talked about was Liberia. I assured him that our government's
position is a strong position. We want to enable ECOWAS to get in and help
create the conditions necessary for the cease-fire to hold, that Mr. Taylor
must leave, that we'll participate with the troops. We're in the process,
still, of determining what is necessary, what ECOWAS can bring to the table,
when they can bring it to the table, what is the timetable, and be able to
match the necessary U.S. help to expediting the ECOWAS' participation.
I told the Secretary General that we want to help, that there must be a
U.N. presence, quickly, into Liberia. He and I discussed how fast it would
take to blue helmet whatever forces arrived, other than our own, of course.
We would not be blue helmeted. We would be there to facilitate and then to
-- and then to leave.
And we had a good discussion. And I think we had a meeting of minds on that
We talked about Iraq. And I told him and assured him that the United States
would stay the course because we believe freedom is on its way to the Iraqi
people. And by that, I mean that the Iraqi people are beginning to assume
more and more responsibility in their society. Free society requires a certain
kind of responsible behavior. And we're seeing more and more of that amongst
the Iraqi citizens. Our deep desire is to make sure that the infrastructure
is repaired, that people are educated, and health care delivery systems are
I was honest in my appraisal when I told him that I recognize certain elements
of the former regime are interested in keeping the infrastructure blown up
because of -- for pure power reasons. And that, I told him, and I will continue
to speak as clearly as I can that an attack on the Iraqi infrastructure by
the Baathist is an attack on the Iraqi people. And it's those Iraqis are
causing the continued suffering, where there's suffering in Iraq.
But we're making good progress. I'm proud of Jerry Bremer's work. And then
the -- we also talked about other issues that are on his mind and my mind.
The long/short of it is we had a great discussion. Mr. Secretary General,
I'm honored you're here.
SECRETARY GENERAL ANNAN: Thank you very much, Mr. President. I think it
is fair to say that it's wonderful that I should be meeting the President
soon after the return -- his return from Africa, my own continent. We weren't
too far away. I was in Mozambique when he was in South Africa and Botswana.
But I would want to thank the President for the interest in the continent
and his determination to help defeat the AIDS pandemic. I think it is a tragedy
that is not only taking away the future of Africa, it is really destroying
And this is -- it's a disease that takes parents away from children, teachers
away from students, doctors away from hospitals. So the effort that is going
in is absolutely worthwhile. And at the African Union Summit, this topic
was very much on everyone's mind.
We also discussed, as the President has indicated, the situation in Liberia.
And I'm satisfied with the discussions we've had and the approach the U.S.
government is taking. And, of course, there is an assessment team in West
Africa, but we have more or less agreed to a general approach on the Liberian
issue. And I'm very pleased with that.
We talked about at least where the President has made a difference. Over
the past couple of weeks, things are going in the right direction. We have
bumps in the road, but I think with the determination of the leaders and
the support of the international community, we will make progress on this
very difficult issue.
In Iraq, we were encouraged to see the formation of the government council
yesterday. And I must say that my special representative, Sergio Vieira and
Mr. Bremer are working very well together.
And on the Hill, I indicated that regardless of the differences that existed
between nations before the war, now we have a challenge. The challenge is
to stabilize Iraq, to help Iraq to become a peaceful, stable and prosperous
state. And I think everyone needs to help. An Iraq that is at peace with
itself and its neighbors, what's in the interest of the neighbors and the
entire international community.
So I would want to see the entire community, international community, come
together to assist the Iraqi people, and to help us stabilize a region.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Kofi.
Q Mr. President, thank you. On Iraq, what steps are being taken to ensure
that questionable information, like the Africa uranium material, doesn't
come to your desk and wind up in your speeches?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, let me first say that -- I think the intelligence I
get is darn good intelligence. And the speeches I have given were backed
by good intelligence. And I am absolutely convinced today, like I was convinced
when I gave the speeches, that Saddam Hussein developed a program of weapons
of mass destruction, and that our country made the right decision.
We worked with the United Nations -- as Kofi mentioned, not all nations
agreed with the decision, but we worked with the United Nations. And Saddam
Hussein did not comply. And it's the same intelligence, by the way, that
my predecessor used to make the decision he made in 1998.
We are in the process now of interrogating people inside of Iraq, looking
at documents, exploring documents to determine the extent that -- what we
can find as quickly as possible. And I believe, firmly believe, that when
it's all said and done, the people of the United States and the world will
realize that Saddam Hussein had a weapons program.
Q On Liberia, are you now telling us that you will send U.S. troops to Liberia,
and how many, and when will this happen?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, see, that's -- what I'm telling you is that we want
to help ECOWAS, it may require troops, but we don't know how many yet. And,
therefore, it's hard for me to make a determination until I've seen all the
facts. And as Kofi mentioned -- or the Secretary General mentioned, excuse
me -- (laughter) -- a little informal here. They are still -- our teams,
our military is assessing ECOWAS' strength, how soon, how quick, what kind
of troops, who they are, to determine what is necessary, from our side, to
fulfill the commitment I have made, that we will help maintain the cease-fire.
By the way, this is conditional upon Mr. Taylor leaving. He's got to leave.
I think everybody understands that. We discussed that, by the way, in Nigeria,
with President Obasanjo, who clearly understands that, as well. But we're
still, Steve, determining the facts. It is very difficult for me to make
a decision until I see the facts.
Q Well, what do you think?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I don't know. That's an interesting question. We asked
that question today at a national security briefing. And as soon as we can
get it -- the Secretary General has been very helpful in urging nations to
move forward with these plans. We hear numbers all the time as to -- you
know, Nigeria may be able to contribute this, or so and so may be able to
contribute that. Maybe you'd like to answer the question -- I mean, as soon
as possible is the answer. We'd like to get the assessment teams. There has
been two such teams out and about, and we'd like to get the information as
soon as possible.
SECRETARY GENERAL ANNAN: And Jacques Klein is going to be the special representative,
the gentleman with the red tie, in Liberia. So you'll be seeing a lot of
him, and you can talk to him.
Q No long term commitments --
THE PRESIDENT: Correct. I think everybody understands, any commitment we
had would be limited in size and limited in tenure. Our job would be to help
facilitate an ECOWAS presence which would then be converted into a U.N. peacekeeping
SECRETARY GENERAL ANNAN: Maybe I should add something here. The understanding
which is emerging now is for the ECOWAS forces to send in a vanguard of about
1,000 to 1,500 troops. And I think this is something that they have worked
out amongst themselves and now discussing in Accra with the -- also with
the U.S. team. After that, from what I gather, Taylor -- President Taylor
will leave Liberia, and then the force will be strengthened, hopefully with
U.S. participation, and additional troops from the West African region. Eventually,
U.N. blue helmets will be set up to stabilize the situation, along the lines
that we've done in Sierra Leone, and once the situation is calmer and stabilized,
U.S. would leave and the U.N. peacekeepers would carry on the situation.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, Dana, one last question.
Q Mr. President, back on the question of Iraq, and that specific line that
has been in question --
THE PRESIDENT: Can you cite the line? (Laughter.)
Q I could, if you gave me some time.
THE PRESIDENT: When I gave the speech, the line was relevant.
Q So even though there has been some question about the intelligence --
the intelligence community knowing beforehand that perhaps it wasn't, you
still believe that when you gave it --
THE PRESIDENT: Well, the speech that I gave was cleared by the CIA. And,
look, the thing that's important to realize is that we're constantly gathering
data. Subsequent to the speech, the CIA had some doubts. But when I gave
the -- when they talked about the speech and when they looked at the speech,
it was cleared. Otherwise, I wouldn't have put it in the speech. I'm not
interested in talking about intelligence unless it's cleared by the CIA.
And as Director Tenet said, it was cleared by the CIA.
The larger point is, and the fundamental question is, did Saddam Hussein
have a weapons program? And the answer is, absolutely. And we gave him a
chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in. And, therefore,
after a reasonable request, we decided to remove him from power, along with
other nations, so as to make sure he was not a threat to the United States
and our friends and allies in the region. I firmly believe the decisions
we made will make America more secure and the world more peaceful.