House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer
White House Briefing Room
October 23, 2001
3:48 P.M. EDT
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. At my briefing earlier today, I said that the
White House would report any new developments, should they occur.
Early this afternoon, a positive anthrax culture was found at the remote mail
site that serves the White House. This is a delivery site that is located some
miles away from the White House that handles all White House mail.
Test results showed it to be positive for a small concentration of anthrax.
The facility has been closed for further testing and decontamination.
Tests will be performed on all mail received at this site to determine its source.
All employees at this site are being swabbed and tested. Mailroom employees
at the White House will also be swabbed and tested. An environmental sampling
throughout the White House has all shown negative.
I'd be happy to answer any questions.
QUESTION: Any specific letter or package that has tested?
MR. FLEISCHER: It's too soon to say. They are going to be going through that
mail to determine what the source may be.
QUESTION: -- environmental tests --
MR. FLEISCHER: It was found -- yes, let me fill you in. It was found on what's
called a slitter, which is a mechanical device that opens the mail. It was not
found on any mail itself. A determination -- an investigation will now begin
to go through the mail to determine what the source may be. But it was a small
concentration that was found on the slitter.
QUESTION: Are you saying that environmental tests have been done within the
MR. FLEISCHER: David, suffice it to say that prior to September 11th, and then
as well as after September 11th, the White House has always had extraordinary
precautions in place. They've even been enhanced after September 11th. So there
has been a regular program here of environmental sampling at the White House
even prior to this discovery, and all the environmental sampling to date has
shown negative. And we will, as just indicated, if anything is positive, we
will of course report it. There is nothing to report if all is negative.
QUESTION: Is anybody taking any precautionary step at the White House? Any part
of the complex? Are they taking antibiotics? Is anybody taking any precautionary
steps at all?
MR. FLEISCHER: The answer to that remains the same as what I indicated earlier,
that we do not discuss that for the White House staff as a matter of routine.
In the case of this discovery at the remote site, we will share that information
because it applies to the specific case.
QUESTION: They are taking antibiotics at the remote site?
MR. FLEISCHER: I indicated yes, testing and swabbing has occurred, and antibiotics
will be available to anybody there.
QUESTION: Was this discovered --
QUESTION: You said something about mailroom employees here at the White House?
MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct.
QUESTION: Are they being swabbed and given antibiotics?
MR. FLEISCHER: They'll be swabbed and tested, and on the antibiotics, that will
be a determination that's made based on what the results are. I'll have to check
with the medical staff to see if antibiotics will be provided earlier than that.
QUESTION: And those employees who work in the mailroom in the West Wing or in
the building across the street, OEOB?
MR. FLEISCHER: It's the mailroom handlers, mailroom employees, and they are
located -- I do not believe they are in the West Wing, itself.
How far away is the off-site facility? And how can you be sure that --
MR. FLEISCHER: The off-site facility is at a military facility located miles
away from the White House, itself.
QUESTION: Okay. How can you be sure that no one else in the White House has
come in contact with this letter and has been exposed to anthrax, besides the
MR. FLEISCHER: Suffice it to say, as a result of many of the security precautions
that have been put in place since September 11th, we have high confidence that
is not the case.
QUESTION: But it has not come in the West Wing?
MR. FLEISCHER: The test will be done on the basis of where the doctors and the
security personnel determine the most logical place is to test. And that's why,
for example, the mailroom employees will be tested.
QUESTION: Ari, have you tested in the West Wing?
MR. FLEISCHER: Not as a result of this, Ron.
QUESTION: Have you tested in the West Wing?
MR. FLEISCHER: There are a variety of security procedures that were already
in place; I'm not going to go beyond that and discuss them.
QUESTION: Ari, how often is this facility tested? Was this the first test that
was done that came positive, or has it been tested periodically and this is
the first time you discovered a positive sample at this facility?
MR. FLEISCHER: As I said, many procedures have been in place prior to September
11th; they were enhanced since September 11th. This is a result of some of the
enhanced testing procedures -- since September 11th.
QUESTION: Since September 11th. So there have been tests underway, enhanced
tests, and this is the first time you have a positive.
MR. FLEISCHER: That's what I just indicated. Correct. That's correct.
QUESTION: When exactly was it discovered?
MR. FLEISCHER: The positive culture was found late this morning by -- the Secret
Service was informed. Senior White House staff was informed at about 12:30 p.m.-12:45
p.m. this afternoon. And then I was provided that information. I was in the
middle of this briefing at that time. I was provided that information at approximately
QUESTION: And the routine test was done today or yesterday? And was it a routine
MR. FLEISCHER: The tests were done as a result of the enhanced procedures put
in place since September 11th. And the positive culture was found today -- was
determined to be positive.
QUESTION: Was this the first of those tests, or was this an ongoing test that
is done frequently on this piece of equipment?
MR. FLEISCHER: There have been a series of enhanced security procedures that
have been in place. This is the first test that has come back positive. If other
tests were done prior to that, I do not know. I only know about the test that
came back positive.
QUESTION: The sample was found on the slitter, meaning, one assumes, that it
opened some envelope. Have you found the piece of mail that left that sample
on the slitter? Have you been able to determine if any --
MR. FLEISCHER: No, as I indicated, the investigation is beginning, and they
want to try to find the source of it.
QUESTION: Obviously your fear is that an envelope was opened mechanically and
then passed on to someone here in the White House.
MR. FLEISCHER: Or it may still be at the facility. As I said, there have been
a series of security precautions that have been put in place here in the White
House, which give us high confidence that there is not an issue here at the
White House itself.
QUESTION: How many White House employees receive mail that might have been opened
by that slitter?
MR. FLEISCHER: As I indicated, there have been a series of security precautions
put in place that gives us high confidence.
QUESTION: Who is at risk -- which federal employees might be at risk from the
mail that contained the anthrax opened by that slitter?
MR. FLEISCHER: On the advice of the professionals who are involved in this,
which are the health professionals and security professionals, the people who
work at the remote facility will all be swabbed and tested, and the mailroom
employees here at the White House will be swabbed --
QUESTION: Could it be -- Ari, are you telling us in effect that the reason you
know that no one else needs to be swabbed is that the mail is never -- hasn't
gotten beyond the mailroom since September 11th, that it's not getting to the
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to go into all the details about the security procedures
that are in place, Ron. But again, the confidence is high about the White House,
as a result of the enhanced security procedures that are put in place.
QUESTION: Can you tell me if you've been getting outside mail since the 11th?
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, I'm not going to get into all the details of security.
QUESTION: What other facilities, though, does this -- where does this mail go
besides the White House? Are there other federal agencies that get this mail,
any other federal employees that get this mail besides here at the White House?
MR. FLEISCHER: The only other entity that I know that gets this mail is one
federal agency. They've been notified about it, and they will also receive the
same type of treatment.
QUESTION: What agency is that?
MR. FLEISCHER: The Secret Service.
QUESTION: Ari, how does this affect operations in the White House day to day?
Are there any shutdowns, any operations that aren't going to be going forward?
MR. FLEISCHER: No, it has not changed anything at the White House. The environmental
sampling that had been in place continues here at the White House. And as I
indicated, all results of the environmental sampling, which is, if you think
about it, that's one of the best precautions you can take, is to go in and take
a look at various areas around the White House to determine if there is anything
positive or negative involving the physical space of the White House; and as
I said, all tests have come back negative.
QUESTION: Ari, you say that there is a high level of confidence that the White
House is okay. But, technically, is there a chance that a piece of this mail
is in the White House, just to clarify?
MR. FLEISCHER: I can only report to you what's been passed on to me and faithfully
reported to you on the basis of what the security people have told me. That's
QUESTION: You said that you didn't know the results of any previous testing
on this piece of equipment; but do you know when that piece of equipment was
last tested? Prior to this positive test.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I know that the test result was determined late this morning,
and shared with the White House at that time.
QUESTION: But do you know when that piece of equipment showed its last negative
test? I mean, is it done on an hourly basis, a daily basis?
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I said I was only informed about the positive test. I do
not know about all the tests that came back negative in each instance.
QUESTION: So you do not know when that piece of equipment was last tested?
MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct.
QUESTION: Prior to this morning?
MR. FLEISCHER: That's what I -- that's correct.
QUESTION: When was the President informed? Who told him, and what was his reaction?
MR. FLEISCHER: The President was informed sometime ago, some hours ago. I talked
to him about it, probably about 45 minutes ago. He had already been informed,
and the President also has confidence in the security procedures that are in
place at the White House.
The President expressed his concern for the people who work at the facility.
The President also said that this is another example of how this is a two-front
war; that there are people who would seek to do evil to this country; that there
are people who mean us harm, and they have mailed letters, obviously, to high-impact
places -- the news media, to Majority Leader Daschle, perhaps in this case to
the White House. And the President understands that these are enemies that we
face who are seeking to create the most disruption in our society. And he is
determined not to let them succeed.
We'll take three more.
QUESTION: Ari, do you have confidence, or is the White House confident that
this letter or document, whatever this piece of mail is, can be tracked either
through routing codes or some other internal mechanism that mail that's opened
and forwarded to the White House --
MR. FLEISCHER: Dick, that's a question the investigators will have to answer
once they determine what the source was. The first step is to determine the
source, and then they'll be able to gather more information about that source.
QUESTION: Ari, this is a huge campus with a lot of people. It's already been
said -- you said that the slitter has detected something that's not -- you haven't
let us know that some of this mail might have gotten out. But has anyone here
started swabbing or made requests to have the federal government or the federal
doctors here take a look at them and start swabbing? And have you been swabbed,
and anybody over here been swabbed yet?
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, anything dealing with the existing procedure, separate
and apart from this, that are a result of White House security precautions,
I'm not going to discuss. So that's the answer to your question. But as a result
of this, I did share with you the information about who has been or will be
swabbed and tested.
QUESTION: Mail comes to the press -- mail comes to the press, it comes to the
West -- it comes all over this place. Do you recommend that everyone here, as
well, might -- I mean, use common sense, possibly get swabbed?
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, the White House has high confidence as a result of the
security precautions that are in place.
David. This will be the last question.
QUESTION: Ari, are you saying that health officials have been doing environmental
tests at the White House, protectively, since September 11th, or around that
MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct.
QUESTION: And so, you've been doing that absent any evidence to suggest that
there may be anthrax present?
MR. FLEISCHER: David, as you can imagine, even prior to September 11th, similar
things have been done at the White House in terms of testing and precautions
and procedures, separate and apart from anything involving anthrax.
The White House has always, unfortunately, been a target -- a target for terrorists,
a target for people who have shot at the building, and that's no surprise to
you or to the American people. So prior to September 11th, there was a series
of tests that had been in place for the White House as a result of its unique
nature. Those tests were enhanced after September 11th.
QUESTION: Therefore, the protocols that you discussed earlier today that would
apply to federal facilities like post offices around the country that were being
followed, that indicated there was no need to test at the Brentwood facility
and so forth, those are not the protocols that were followed here because you
needed to be extra careful here?
MR. FLEISCHER: On that point, if you look at the remote delivery site in the
same way you do as the substations of D.C., the substations are being checked
also on their equipment. So that's similar.
But as I mentioned, there is no other institution like the White House, there
is no other target, unfortunately, like the President. And, therefore, the White
House has always had a unique and different set of security precautions, and
continues to have --
QUESTION: Can I just ask you again, because you don't seem to be waving us off
this point -- has all outside mail been cut off to the White House? How else
could you be so certain?
MR. FLEISCHER: I've answered the question as best I can.
QUESTION: And did the pre-September 11th tests that you talk have been in place
for a long time because this place is a target -- did they include tests for
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to get into all the degrees of the testing that
have been done. Again, that's part of the security regimen at the White House,
and we do not indicate -- that level of specificity about what has been tested
or what has not been tested.
Thank you, everybody.
QUESTION: Ari, can you confirm two more cases of inhalation anthrax?