General John Ashcroft
Department of Justice Conference Room
October 18, 2001
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: This afternoon I have several announcements on the steps
the Justice Department has taken and on the assistance we continue to need from
Congress in the war against terrorism.
In the war against terrorism, America won a battle today. A Manhattan federal
court sentenced four terrorists to life in prison without the possibility of
parole for their participation in the August 1998 bombings of the American embassies
in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Mohamed Sadeek Odeh, Mohamed
Rashed Doud Al- Owhali and Kalfen Khamis Mohamed each received life sentences
for the terrorist attacks in which hundreds of Kenyan, Tanzanian and American
citizens were murdered.
Odeh, Al-Owhali and Mohamed also received additional life sentences for their
participation in several conspiracies to murder United States nationals and
U.S. government employees, as well as conspiracies to use weapons of mass destruction
against the United States property and against United States persons.
An additional terrorist, Wadih El Hage , was sentenced to life imprisonment
for his conviction for participating in conspiracies to murder U.S. nationals
and to destroy government property, as well as a conviction for perjury before
a grand jury investigating the embassy bombings.
On May the 29th of this year, 2001, a jury found these four defendants guilty
on all 302 counts against them for their involvement in a global plot, let by
Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, al Qaeda, to kill United States nationals
anywhere they could be found. Evidence presented at trial documented that Al-Owhali
received terrorist training in al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan. Mohamed and Odeh,
who has been a sworn member of al Qaeda since 1992, also received terrorist
training in Afghanistan.
In addition, the trial evidence showed that al Hage, despite being a United
States citizen, was a central facilitator in the bombing plot, serving as a
leader of the al Qaeda cell in Nairobi, Kenya and at one time as a personal
assistant to bin Laden. Al Qaeda stands charged, tried, convicted and sentenced
To date, the total number of persons charged in connection with the U.S. embassy
bombings is 22, six of whom are in custody in the United States, three of whom
are in custody in the United Kingdom. There is a reward of up to $5 million
each for information leading to the apprehension, prosecution and conviction
of any of the remaining 13 fugitives, which include Osama bin Laden, all of
whom have been named to the 22 most-wanted-terrorist list.
While the fight against terrorism demands that American justice focus on the
prevention of future terrorist acts in addition to the prosecution of past acts,
today's sentence sends a message. The United States will hunt terrorists down
and will make them pay the price for their evil acts of terrorism.
I want to congratulate U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White and her team for these successful
prosecutions. I also want to commend the FBI for their excellent work in this
case. Most of the evidence was international, difficult to assemble. As a result
of the exemplary work of prosecutors and investigators, Americans have four
fewer combatants to face in the global war against terrorism.
The second issue that I would like to cover is the anti-terrorism legislation
requested by this administration that is currently working its way through the
United States Congress. I'm extremely gratified by the expeditious, bipartisan,
bicameral attention that this anti- terrorism legislation has received.
Over the last month, the administration and Congress have worked together to
update and strengthen our laws to combat terrorism. By overwhelming bipartisan
majorities, both the House and the Senate have acted to make terrorism the priority
in our laws that it must now be, and they have acted to update our antiquated
statutes to take into account the new technologies that terrorists today employ.
Yesterday the leadership of the House and Senate, in addition to the Judiciary
Committee chairmen and ranking members, came to a final agreement on the anti-terrorism
legislation. And I am gratified that I can state unequivocally that this legislation,
once passed and signed into law, will immediately increase our capacity to detect,
to disrupt and to prevent acts of terrorism.
The Department of Justice is already working to ensure the immediate implementation
of these measures. I understand it is likely that Congress would pass the legislation
upon its return to Washington next Tuesday.
Let me identify just a few of the specific tools for intelligence-gathering
that we requested and that Congress has agreed to: First, better anti-terrorism
coordination. The legislation will allow Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
wiretaps, a crucial investigative technique in terrorism cases, when the gathering
of foreign intelligence is a significant purpose of the investigation rather
than permitting them only when gathering foreign intelligence is the primary
This makes the utilization of wiretaps against terrorists much more workable
and will facilitate greater coordination between law enforcement and the intelligence
side of our investigative resources. Such coordination is at the heart of our
ability to prevent future attacks. Second, airtight surveillance of terrorists.
The legislation permits multi-point wiretaps in FISA cases -- that's the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act cases -- as we currently have in criminal cases.
This allows the court to authorize wiretaps of any phones when the suspect may
-- pardon me -- this allows the wiretap of any funds which the suspect may use
when it is shown that the suspect is changing phones to thwart surveillance
efforts.This authority will allow us to be more effective in surveiling terrorists
and their associates and will increase our chance of learning ahead of time
Third, better intelligence about terrorist activities. The legislation also
permits foreign intelligence information obtained through a federal grand jury
to be shared with other federal law enforcement or intelligence agencies and
with national defense and national security officials.
This will allow, for the first time, information that might be relevant to preventing
a terrorist attack to be shared with those officials in a position to take the
prevention action or the action designed to curtail the activity. Tearing down
the wall between intelligence and criminal information is one of the most important
steps we will make or we will be able to take.
Finally, I would like to reiterate, for those who may doubt our resolve, the
seriousness with which the Department of Justice regards terrorist hoaxes such
as false anthrax threats. Making a terrorist threat is a federal offense, even
if the person making the threat does not intend or have the ability to carry
out the threat.
Individuals who threaten the use of biological toxins can receive up to life
in prison as a sentence.
The law provides for up to five years in prison for mailing communications that
contain any threat to injure the addressee or any other person. Those who lie
to law enforcement officials about terrorist hoaxes can also receive up to five
years in prison.
Already a number of individuals have been charged with serious crimes in connection
with terrorist hoaxes. Fred Porcelina (sp) of Fairfield County, Connecticut
faces up to life imprisonment for threatening the use of weapons of mass destruction.
Porcelina (sp) is charged with dialing 911 to threaten that courthouses, schools
and railroad stations would be, quote, "dusted," closed quote.
Joseph Fairniarz of Coventry, Connecticut faces up to five years in prison and
serious fines for making false statements to federal agents in connection with
a terrorist hoax that shut down the Connecticut Department of Environmental
Protection for two days, which may have cost Connecticut taxpayers about a million
and a half dollars.
Terry Olson (sp) of Price, Utah faces up to five years and fines for making
false statements to the FBI about his knowledge of an anthrax hoax. And William
Silvia (sp) of Portsmouth, Rhode Island could receive five years in prison and
a $250,000 fine for mailing a letter purported to contain anthrax.
The Department of Justice is working with state and local officials to prosecute
additional cases of false terrorist threats and anthrax hoaxes. In the meantime,
the serious charges and substantial penalties faced by these four individuals
should eliminate any remaining doubt in the minds of those who would perpetrate
terrorist hoaxes. You will be caught, you will be prosecuted, and you will pay
a high price for your crimes.
Thank you very much, and I'd be pleased to respond to questions. Yes, sir.
QUESTION: I was wondering if all these new hoax cases, plus all the business
that's been going on with the anthrax investigation, has it in any way made
it more difficult to go after the original suspects or people connected to the
-- (inaudible) -- case?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We are still devoting the resources which we think are appropriate.
When we respond, though, we respond with a full sense of the seriousness to
a case which we cannot determine is a hoax until after an investigation has
been made. And it is resource- consumptive, not only of law enforcement resources
but public health resources, and not only of federal resources but state and
And I guess I should add that in a number of local jurisdictions, hoax perpetrators
are being prosecuted as well. I know of cases, I believe in the Midwest and
also in the Southwest, where those cases are being undertaken and pursued vigorously
and aggressively by local prosecutors.
QUESTION: Attorney General, did the sentencing in New York trigger any new threats?
Were there any additional precautions taken? And are you worried that the sentencing
could trigger additional attacks?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We think these sentencings are very important because they
indicate that America will not tolerate terrorism. We believe that the court
has acted properly and are grateful for this conviction of al Qaeda and the
sentencing, which really represents a conclusion that is clear that al Qaeda
is involved in terrorism.
We think that we have a threat environment which is substantial. Let me take
that word back. The last time I used a word like that, it was misinterpreted.
We still believe that we have a threat environment in the United States which
should cause American citizens to be alert and that we should be alert to take
whatever steps we can to minimize risks. And those are risks which we are largely
associated with because of the good job you've been doing of public information.
QUESTION: Is there anything you can tell us about the anthrax cases in terms
of the bacteria itself that was delivered? Because there have been a lot of
statements in the last couple of days about it being a professional grade and
an indication that the form in which it was -- (inaudible) -- could only have
been produced by an organization with a lot of resources. Can you give us --
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: I think those questions were answered this morning by the
authorities at the briefing with Governor Ridge. And I think their statements
on that constitute their professional judgment. And I don't do that kind of
analysis, so I think I'd have to stay with that.
QUESTION: Attorney General, since this morning, though, have you gotten any
information to indicate that the strain found in Washington, in Senator Daschle's
office, is linked to the Florida or the New York strains?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: No. No, I haven't.
QUESTION: I think you said the other day that you've found no evidence so far
that this was linked to organized terrorism. Has anything come up since then
to change that opinion? And do you think that this may be a case of domestic
terrorism versus overseas?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We have ruled out neither international terrorism nor domestic
terrorism. And we think it may be ill-advised to think about the situation in
terms of an either/or matrix; that it might well be that we have opportunists
in the United States or terrorists in the United States who are acting in ways
that are unrelated. Given the several thousand scares that we've had, I think
it's pretty clear that there are ill-advised individuals who are seeking to
take advantage of a situation. And we will do what we can to aggressively pursue
those who do so.
QUESTION: Does the identification today of two particular mail facility employees
in New Jersey who were exposed to this in any way narrow the focus of the investigation
there, eliminate some options and concentrate attention on others?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: Well, I believe that the identification of those circumstances
is helpful to us in the investigation.
QUESTION: There was a report today about the contents of the letters that were
sent to NBC and Senator Daschle. Can you talk a little bit about what the text
of the letters may have been and whether there was -- (inaudible) -- to believe
that the messages contained in the letters are to be taken at face value?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: No, I can't. We released the faces of the letters to help
people be on guard and also to have them be able to think if they had previously
received such letters. And the FBI director indicated that we did not want to
release the interior contents of the letter because we wanted to be able to
protect that so that if there were additional letters similarly situated, we'd
be able to understand the relationship.
QUESTION: To follow up on that, we had heard that there was additional testing
being -- not testing, but analysis done on those letters to see if there --
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: I don't have anything to report to you in that respect.
QUESTION: Can you say -- you hinted yesterday that there was perhaps some linkage
between the hoaxes and the delivery of real anthrax, and whether that was part
of the overall plan --
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We just said that could be a possibility. And we did not
-- and I think it is possible that someone who wants to disrupt our culture
would seek to sort of leverage --
QUESTION: But it's still a possibility -- (inaudible)?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We're not in a position to rule it out or to determine if
that was the case.
QUESTION: Do you believe, in response to a previous question, do you believe
this anthrax originated in Trenton? What two roles -- (inaudible) -- to NBC
and elsewhere? (Inaudible.)
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We're not in a position to make a determination that's worthy
of announcement in that respect.
QUESTION: Could your investigators and experts at this point offer any general
characterization as to the level of sophistication that's involved by whoever
perpetrated this? Are these people highly-skilled individuals? Or how would
you characterize, or can you?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: I think the characterization of the substances that was
given at the briefing this morning is accurate. And for me to speak further
about the substances would be inappropriate.
QUESTION: Can you say anything about the reports that there were anthrax-laced
letters sent to Kenya?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: I don't have any report to make on that.
STAFF: One more question, please.
QUESTION: How would you characterize the progress of the investigation? And
are you any closer to making any arrests in the anthrax cases?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We have significantly more information than we started with.
That's how I would characterize it. And that's not enough of an answer to be
the last question. This gentleman behind had his hand up.
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: You weren't supposed to get the next-to-the- last question,
let alone the last question. Sir.
QUESTION: Is Zecharias Micelli (sp) cooperating with authorities? And what role
is he playing in the September 11th investigation?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: I'm not prepared to -- I guess that you did get the last
question. I'm sorry. Thank you all very much. END.