House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer
White House Briefing Room
October 4, 2001
3:40 P.M. EDT
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. Before I begin the briefing, I just want to,
for a few brief moments, introduce you to Secretary of Health and Human Services
Tommy Thompson, and Dr. Scott Lillibridge, also of the Department of Health
and Human Services, formerly of the Centers for Disease Control. They want to
just share a little information to follow up an announcement that was made earlier
today by officials in the state of Florida, at a news conference that concluded
just a little time ago.
SECRETARY THOMPSON: Thank you very much, Ari. And let me, as Ari indicated,
just bring you up to date with the information that we have concerning the incident
that took place in the state of Florida, and also following up on the information
that the state of Florida has released within the last hour.
The Centers for Disease Control has just confirmed the diagnosis of anthrax
in a patient in a Florida hospital. Based on what we know at this point, it
appears it is an isolated case.
I want to make sure that everybody understands that anthrax is not contagious
and is not communicable, which means it does not spread from person to person.
If it is caught early enough, it can be prevented and treated with antibiotics.
The Centers for Disease Control has a ready supply, and if our investigation
shows anyone else needs treatment, they will be notified and treated.
Our public health reporting system worked in a very timely fashion, as I indicated
in my testimony yesterday. Florida public health officials promptly notified
their state health department, who then notified the Centers for Disease Control
and the FBI. And officials are aggressively investigating the individual's schedule
for the last two weeks and the source of the infection.
I want everybody to understand that sporadic cases of anthrax do occur in the
United States. The most recent one was within the past year in the state of
Texas. And there was a case in Florida in 1974. The last reported case that
we know of was within the last year -- was earlier in Texas.
The rapid identification of this case in Florida certainly may be a result of
the heightened level of disease monitoring being done by the public health and
medical community. This is the disease monitoring system in action and it is
working. People need to understand that our public health system is on heightened
alert, so we may have more public reports of what appears to be isolated cases.
We will be responding very aggressively.
But I want to point out once again that this is an isolated case, and it's not
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, given what we know, is there any reason to believe
this is a result of terrorism?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: It appears that this is just an isolated case. There's no
evidence of terrorism -- at this --
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, do we know if this particular individual had contact
with raw wool? Was he a gardener, working in the ground?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We have the FBI and we have dispatched, as I said yesterday
in the testimony, as soon as we heard anything suspicious, we have our CDC officials
there, on the ground. And they are going to go through -- the last couple weeks,
go to the restaurants. He traveled to North Carolina. We've also dispatched
people from CDC to North Carolina, to the communities that he was there. We're
checking with his neighbors. We're investigating with the FBI all known places
and all the things that he might have ingested.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, what are some of the sources that could cause such
SECRETARY THOMPSON: That's why the doctor is here.
And do you want to answer that?
DR. LILLIBRIDGE: Sure. Sporadic cases may occur from contact with wool, animal
products, hides, that sort of thing. And occasionally we don't know the context
of these. These are sporadic, episodic things that happen from time to time.
QUESTION: But how sporadic? You just named two cases last year in Texas and
then Florida in 1974. That's two --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: They're very rare. It's very rare.
QUESTION: So this is the third since 1974?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We don't know that, but this is a confirmed, and at this
point in time, it's an isolated case. And there is no other indications anybody
else has got anthrax.
QUESTION: Do you know if he happened to work around wool or any of the products
that might have --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We don't know that at this point in time. That's entirely
possible. We do know that he drank water out of a stream when he was traveling
to North Carolina last week. But as far as wool or other things, it's entirely
possible. We haven't got all of the investigations done. And we're doing a tremendous
extensive job of investigating everything.
QUESTION: How did you find out about it? Did he go into the hospital --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: He went to the hospital. He went into the hospital on the
first of October, and is still in the hospital. And they took a test, and just
the way the system works -- it went up through the state laboratory. It went
up to the state health department, who contacted us, and they confirmed anthrax,
and we reconfirmed it through our CDC --
QUESTION: Do you automatically test for anthrax, or how did they make the distinction?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: Well, we sent in the sample, and luckily there was -- not
luckily, but that's the way it works, the system works. And this individual
that was at the health department has just been educated at the CDC department
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, do we know, was this inhalation anthrax? Was this fellow
SECRETARY THOMPSON: It appears at this point in time it's inhalation.
QUESTION: Do you know if he was a hunter?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We don't know that. We know he was an outdoorsman, so it's
entirely possible that he was --
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, can you tell us the city, or the town in Florida?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: It was near Palm Beach. He actually lived in -- it's right
QUESTION: While you're looking, could you tell us his age and --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: Sixty-three years of age, and he was of British descent,
QUESTION: What's the prognosis? Will he recover?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: That, I can't tell you. He's from Lantana, Florida.
QUESTION: What are you advising the public health officials in that area and
citizens in that area to do?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We are advising everybody to, if they have severe respiratory
ailments, to go see their doctor.
QUESTION: What are the symptoms that he's presented?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We also have all of our EIS, our CDC people, that need to
be there investigating, they're going to go to all the hospitals and emergency
wards, and check everything out.
QUESTION: What kind of symptoms should people look for? What symptoms did he
SECRETARY THOMPSON: It's severe respiratory -- upper respiratory problems that
you would have.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, are you reevaluating whether civilians should try to
start taking anthrax medication? And would there be enough available to even
have enough --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: There's enough available. We have an ample supply and I
want everybody to know that -- we have plenty of supply, and we have enough
antibiotics to treat 2 million people for 60 days. And we have also contacted
the pharmaceutical companies, not just today, but have throughout our planning
process, and there is plenty of supply available. So people should not go out
and do anything different than what they're doing. This is an isolated case,
and it's not contagious.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, how likely is it that there have been other anthrax
cases in the past year, say, that just simply haven't been diagnosed?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: It's entirely possible.
QUESTION: Possible or likely or --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: Would you say it's probable?
DR. LILLIBRIDGE: It's possible. As you heighten surveillance, you'll get more.
QUESTION: Could we just ask one other question? When was the last documented
case of anthrax in North Carolina? Could you check that?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: I don't -- well, we certainly will be checking all of that
and getting information out as it goes on.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, can you be certain that it's an isolated case?
QUESTION: Can you explain why he was drinking from a stream? (Laughter.) Is
that a reason -- should we know that? Why are you giving us that detail?
SECRETARY THOMPSON: Just because he was an outdoorsman, and there is a possibility
that -- there are all kinds of possibilities --
QUESTION: Can you contract it that way, is why she's asking -- can you contract
anthrax by drinking unboiled water --
SECRETARY THOMPSON: We don't know yet.
QUESTION: Is he a British citizen, sir?
MR. FLEISCHER: Thank you.
SECRETARY THOMPSON: Thank you.
MR. FLEISCHER: Any additional information will be made available by either the
CDC or the HHS.
QUESTION: We need the doctor's name.
MR. FLEISCHER: Oh, I'm sorry. That was Dr. Scott Lillibridge.
QUESTION: Could you tell us if he was a British citizen? Because he said he
was of British descent.
MR. FLEISCHER: Don't have that, Connie. All right. Let me let you know about
the President's day today.
QUESTION: Is he an MD or PhD?
MR. FLEISCHER: I'd have to look that up. I couldn't tell you. You may want to
just check with HHS.
QUESTION: Ari, just one follow on that? The President was briefed -- can you
tell us who briefed the President about this, and when?
MR. FLEISCHER: Let me -- I'm going to give you information about the President's
day, and then I'll be happy to take your questions. I want to begin with a statement
by the President, and this pertains to the plane crash into the Black Sea.
This is a statement by the President: I was deeply saddened to learn today of
the crash of a Siberian Airlines passenger aircraft, flying from Tel Aviv to
Novosibirsk. My heartfelt sympathies and those of the American people are with
the people of Israel and Russia, and the families of the many victims of this
Earlier today, the President spoke with the Emir of Bahrain on the phone. That
was early this morning. The President and the Emir discussed the campaign against
terrorism and the situation throughout the region. The Emir expressed his sympathy
and condolences for the victims of the attack on our country on September 11th,
and the President thanked the Emir for his strong support and help in the campaign,
and in hosting U.S. forces, including headquarters for the 5th Fleet, which
is located in Bahrain.
The President also this morning spoke with President Kwasniewski of Poland.
It was a warm phone call and the President thanked the Polish President for
Poland's cooperation in the campaign against terrorism, and for Poland's support
of the American people. The support includes political support, including working
with other Central and East European nations, information-sharing, working on
financial control of terrorists' assets, as well.
The President noted that now, more than ever, we must work together for the
goals of what President Bush discussed in his speech in Warsaw on June 15th,
a Europe whole, free and at peace. That is essential to meeting the challenges
of the 21st century.
Following that, as you know, the President traveled to the State Department
to announce a new package of humanitarian aid for the people of Afghanistan.
He had a lunch meeting with various members of Congress to discuss working together
with Congress on vital issues in the domestic agenda. He also went to the Department
of Labor where he announced a new package of assistance for dislocated American
And the President, later this afternoon, will be meeting with the Emir of Qatar
to discuss the strong cooperation that we have received from our good friend
in the region, and to reaffirm the strong U.S.-Qatar relations.
And that is my update for the day. I'd be happy to take your questions.
QUESTION: Ari, does the President believe that the crash of the Russian airliner
was an accident?
MR. FLEISCHER: John, we are in the process of working with officials in the
appropriate nations to ascertain all information that is available, but it's
too soon to say. There are no conclusions that have been reached.
QUESTION: Has he talked to Putin about this yet?
MR. FLEISCHER: The President has not, no.
QUESTION: The British government today released a 20-page document outlining
some of the evidence against bin Laden. Is there any reason that the British
government released this kind of report as opposed to the United States government?
And there was some suggestion from Secretary Powell at one point that the government
might or might not. Why is this coming out of the British government?
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't speak for other governments; I can't give you an answer
QUESTION: Did we review it? Did we have an early copy of it?
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't know the answer to that question.
QUESTION: Was the White House aware that the British government was going to
release this evidence?
MR. FLEISCHER: I know the first I heard of it was when it was on its web page.
So I don't know the answer to that question.
QUESTION: Did the President or anybody have a problem with that being released?
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, I don't --
QUESTION: You went to great lengths not to --
MR. FLEISCHER: As far as I understand it, the document does not contain any
classified information. It's a good, strong look back at the activities that
have been done by the al Qaeda organization, Osama bin Laden.
QUESTION: It does include new information. It does include information that's
not been in the public --
QUESTION: Going back to the anthrax, yes -- was the President, he's obviously
been informed. When was he informed, who informed him? Can you give us some
of those details on that?
MR. FLEISCHER: The President was informed this morning, and it was part of his
-- I think he may have been informed by Dr. Rice.
QUESTION: Yes, Ari. Is there any plan now for the United States to release a
document similar to the one released by the British? And if they're releasing
a document that they say was cleared by the U.S., why aren't we releasing one?
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not aware of that statement that they say it was cleared
by the U.S. I just indicated that I don't have any information on that topic.
QUESTION: Do you have any information that the U.S. is planning to release a
MR. FLEISCHER: There is no change in anything I've indicated to you previously
about the United States' dissemination of information about this.
QUESTION: Okay. And on the other point, of evidence, apparently we are now sharing
evidence with Pakistan. I thought earlier indications were that the U.S. thought
it wasn't necessary to share any information with Pakistan.
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not sure where you were led to that conclusion. As I've indicated
many times here, the United States will continue to talk with its allies and
share information as we consult.
MR. FLEISCHER: A lot of information.
QUESTION: Ari, speaking of Pakistan, does the U.S. think it's good for the Pakistanis
to continue to have at least diplomatic relations with the Taliban, or would
the U.S. prefer that country to sever ties?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, prior to this, as evidence of how oppressive the Taliban
regime is, only three nations in the world had relations. Two of those three
have now severed ties. Pakistan, as a free nation, does as it sees fit.
QUESTION: Is the administration, though, I mean, is it sort of feeling that
at some point, to totally alienate the Taliban, that the Pakistanis should sever
ties with --
MR. FLEISCHER: I have no comment beyond that.
QUESTION: Ari, any particular reason why Secretary Thompson made the announcement
here instead of at HHS?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the reason is, he actually was here for another meeting,
and so there was a practicality to it as well. But it's important to share information
with the American people, and that's what you can expect. I think one of the
things, as the President has said, as the nation goes through all the effects
of everything from September 11th is, keep the public informed. And we've talked
about this before -- the best way for our nation to win this war is through
the forthright sharing of information. And that's important.
QUESTION: Well, in that spirit, can you share the evidence against bin Laden?
MR. FLEISCHER: In addition to the steps that Secretary Thompson outlined specifically,
from public health officials in Florida, is the administration taking any actions
elsewhere in the country, within the military, that you can share to deal with
a possible anthrax outbreak?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, first of all, I would be careful on your words when you
say "outbreak," --
QUESTION: I said "possible."
MR. FLEISCHER: -- because this is, as the Secretary just said, it appears to
be an isolated case, which is exactly what the officials on the ground, the
health officials in Florida who briefed the Florida press about this matter
earlier today said.
But the Department of HHS has for years, as you heard Secretary Thompson say,
has been working on preparation plans, and those plans include a training of
local officials, and the Secretary just alluded to that, as well. So there are
a series of protections that have been put into place.
QUESTION: Do you know of any specific threats concerning this kind of potential
terrorist activity that the country has received?
MR. FLEISCHER: Nothing specifically that I'm aware of.
QUESTION: Just one more question on the anthrax. When Dr. Rice informed the
President, did she know at the time that this was an isolated incident, or was
it still cause for alarm several hours ago?
MR. FLEISCHER: That was the first report; and as always with first reports,
you collect information to ascertain as fully as you can and as quickly as you
can all the facts. And you just heard them from the Secretary.
QUESTION: When was the government able to determine that it was an isolated
incident? An hour ago, 15 minutes ago?
MR. FLEISCHER: That information would be a question you need to address to the
CDC to see precisely when they would make that determination.