of State Colin Powell
Washington, D. C.
September 17, 2001
1:42 P.M. EDT
SECRETARY POWELL: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Sorry I'm a little late.
I just got off the phone with the President of Yemen, President Salih, and we
had a good conversation about the support that Yemen is giving to us in this
crisis. They have been very helpful recently in the continuation of the Cole
investigation and now are helping us with respect to leads in this current crisis,
the September 11th incident.
He also mentioned to me that the President of Syria is visiting and that later
this afternoon the two presidents will issue a joint statement, once again condemning
the actions of last week, condemning those who are responsible for it, condemning
terrorism, and committing themselves to work with us in the days and weeks ahead
as we deal with this problem.
This expression of support is characteristic of the expressions of support we
have continued to receive as we call leaders around the world and as we begin
this building of a coalition, a coalition that will be conducting a campaign,
a campaign that will have many parts to it, as I have said to you before, legal,
political, diplomatic, law enforcement, intelligence collection, and military
as appropriate. And so I am pleased that the coalition is coming together.
I think everybody recognizes that this challenge is one that went far beyond
America, far beyond New York City and far beyond Washington. Thirty-seven countries
lost citizens in the World Trade Center, and what we have to do is not only
deal with this present instance but the whole concept of terrorism, deal with
it as a scourge upon civilization and go after it.
But in the first round of this campaign, we have to deal with the perpetrators
of the attacks against America in New York and in Washington. It is becoming
clearer with each passing hour, with each passing day, that it is the al-Qaida
network that is the prime suspect, as the President has said. And all roads
lead to the leader of that organization, Usama bin Laden, and his location in
Afghanistan. That is why we are pleased that the Pakistani Government sent emissaries
in to try to persuade the Afghans, the Taliban leadership, that they should
do what they have been required to do for a number of years under UN resolutions
and reject this presence in their country, this invasion of their country by
a terrorist organization.
We mean no ill toward the people of Afghan; they are a suffering people, they
are a poor people. It is for that reason alone they should not allow these invaders
to put their society at risk and to connect themselves to the government of
So I am very pleased that more and more people around the world recognize the
nature of this campaign, recognize that we have to get involved, recognize it
is not going to be solved in one day or one week, but will be a long-term campaign.
As the President and other government officials have indicated earlier, we are
also doing everything necessary to protect ourselves here at home and to put
ourselves on the right kind of security footing so that we can be vigilant and
alert to the threats that still exist within the country or may be directed
at us in the future.
With that, I will take a few questions. I am once again under a time limit.
QUESTION: Is it too early -- do you have any indications of how the message
is being received by Taliban? The Saudi Foreign Minister is coming here Wednesday,
and could you tell us what you will ask of the Saudis and, whatever they do,
would you prefer this time that they be explicit?
SECRETARY POWELL: I always like explicit rather than vague, and I look forward
to seeing Foreign Minister Saud when he comes here. I have spoken to him, I
guess it was last Thursday or Friday -- I'm losing track of the days -- and
so I expect he will be forthcoming. I expect he will be coming with a message
of support and commitment.
I know that they are looking at a number of ways in which they can help us,
and we will welcome that help and assistance. They are good friends of ours.
They have condemned this act from the very outset, from the very beginning,
from last Wednesday morning on. I am sure he is coming with a message of continued
support and commitment, but I don't want to get into what specifically we might
be asking of them.
QUESTION: Any early indications of what Taliban is saying?
SECRETARY POWELL: The Taliban, of course, is responding in the way that it always
has, that Usama bin Laden and his associates are guests in their country. Well,
it is time for the guests to leave.
QUESTION: First of all, the Pakistanis are saying that there was a deadline
of three days to hand over Usama bin Laden. Is that true?
SECRETARY POWELL: Whose deadline?
QUESTION: The deadline for the Taliban to turn over Usama bin Laden.
SECRETARY POWELL: The Pakistanis gave them a deadline?
QUESTION: Yes. Well, that's what I'm asking. Is it a Pakistani --
SECRETARY POWELL: I don't know if that is the case that the Pakistanis actually
said that and whether they said it in their own name or whose name, but it wasn't
in our name.
QUESTION: And secondly, have you made specific and formal requests to all frontline
states around Afghanistan, including Iran?
SECRETARY POWELL: We have not made specific requests for assistance. Those requests
are being considered now by our intelligence, law enforcement and military communities
to see what might be needed as we put our contingency plans together. Nothing
has been asked of Iran, in particular.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, can you say whether this government intends to contact
the Taliban and to give either an ultimatum, or whatever words you care to choose
of the language? Can you deal with these people?
SECRETARY POWELL: I am sure there will be some communication in the future,
but I would not like to characterize what that communication might be yet.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, as you put the pieces of your diplomatic puzzle together,
what is the
-- could you sort of elaborate for us on the importance that Saudi Arabia, Morocco
and other Islamic states play within the Arab world in sort of building this
SECRETARY POWELL: I think they are important, not only those specific countries
but all countries, Arab and otherwise -- but especially Arab to come out and
condemn this kind of activity, because this is a threat to their own countries.
There isn't one of them you mentioned that hasn't faced some kind of terrorist
attack against their legitimacy, against their own sovereignty. And so it is
important for them to speak out, especially when we have seen the strong statements
from Pakistan. And I think Pakistan would like to see other Arab and Islamic
countries speak out and act in as strong a way as Pakistan has.
And, you know, Uzbekistan has been rather forthcoming and others have been rather
forthcoming. I think, as the days go by and as the various plans come together,
you will see more and more of them speaking out. The UAE has said that it is
reviewing its relationship with Taliban activities within the UAE and we will
see where that leads. The Sudan has become suddenly much more interested and
active in working with us on various items. So there are a lot of things that
are going on that will become more manifest as time goes on.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, did you get the time to talk to the Greek Foreign Minister,
Yeoryios Papandreou, for this cause?
SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, I did. I did. I talked to my colleague, Yeoryios Papandreou,
over the weekend. I can get the specific date for you. Richard has a rather
imposing list of phone calls, but I can no longer remember which day -- it was
over the weekend -- both to my Greek and to my Turkish colleagues on the same
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, is turning over Usama bin Laden enough? Are there other
things the Taliban will also have to do?
SECRETARY POWELL: We are after the al-Qaida network. It is not one individual;
it's lots of individuals and it's lots of cells. As I said on television yesterday,
Usama bin Laden is the chairman of a holding company and within that holding
company are terrorist cells and organizations in dozens of countries around
the world, any one of them capable of committing a terrorist act. So it is not
enough to get one individual, although we will start with that one individual.
It will not be over until we have gotten into the inside of this organization,
inside its decision cycle, inside its planning cycle, inside its execution capability,
and until we have neutralized and destroyed it. That is our objective.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, the Taliban today is apparently offering that an Islamic
-- a court of Islamic clerics would determine the fate of bin Laden and that
they would accept that outcome. But this is something they've offered before
and the US rejected it before. I want to know if that's -- if that's still your
feeling, if that has any kind of flexibility. And also, is there an interagency
team planning to go into Pakistan any time soon?
SECRETARY POWELL: On the first point, I will wait and see what they end up doing
and what that court decides, once it has convened in whatever fashion it convenes
itself and whatever action it takes. I don't want to prejudge what we might
do in response to what it might do.
With respect to an interagency team going to Pakistan, we are making a determination
now and will take a day or two or a couple of days as to what we might want
to ask the Pakistanis for and, when that has been determined, then we will form
a team appropriate to that task.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, are you certain that Usama bin Laden is still in Afghanistan
and are you confident that the Taliban could actually find him?
SECRETARY POWELL: I can't be certain of where he is. I am reasonably confident
and certain that if the Taliban government wanted to find him, they would know
where he is, if he is still in Afghanistan, and I have seen nothing to indicate
he is not still in Afghanistan.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, how do you plan to follow up on the positive signals
being sent from Iran?
SECRETARY POWELL: From Iran?
SECRETARY POWELL: As I said yesterday, these are positive signals, and I've
had it reinforced that it is a positive signal. And it is worth exploring, and
that is where I would leave it right now, not move it any further than that
-- worth exploring. Remember now, as you surely do, that Iran is a nation we
have designated as sponsoring state terrorism. And they may want to make cause
against the Taliban, but will they make cause against other terrorist organizations
that they have provided support to?
And I am willing to explore that, but let's not get any further than that. Some
suggested that they are part of the coalition, they're going to be partners.
Not so fast. We recognize the nature of that regime. They have said something
that is different than what we have heard from them previously. They, too, are
shocked by what happened, they tell us. And so it seems to me that is an opening
worth exploring, and that is as far as we go right now.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, who has not responded well? What countries have disappointed
you in their response? And secondly, last week Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz
used the phrase "ending regimes that sponsor terrorism." No Administration
official has repeated that formula. Are we really after ending regimes, or are
we simply going to try to change their behavior?
SECRETARY POWELL: We are after ending terrorism. And if there are states and
regimes, nations, that support terrorism, we hope to persuade them that it is
in their interests to stop doing that. But I think ending terrorism is where
I would like to leave it, and let Mr. Wolfowitz speak for himself.
QUESTION: What countries have fallen short, let's say?
SECRETARY POWELL: Oh, I really don't have a list of fall-shorts. Some have been
able to do more than others. Some it is rhetorical in nature and they really
don't have much else to give us other than words of support and encouragement.
Others it is far more than that, to the point of if you have to something militarily,
ask us if we can participate.
So it is a full range. But within the capabilities that they have, I am satisfied,
very satisfied, with most of the responses that I have received. Where there
is an opportunity for a country to do more and they haven't yet offered to do
more, I would rather deal with them rather than single them out.
One more, then I've got to go.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, NATO said they would be with us, but apparently Italy
-- there was a statement this morning that Italy would not participate militarily
in any sort of action. And there have been some countries in the Middle East
and elsewhere that have expressed concern that this is going to be too broad
a campaign and they want it to be very narrowly focused, and they're nervous.
What would you say to them?
SECRETARY POWELL: We are sensitive to all those concerns. I heard something
quite different from Italy, but my Italian colleague will be here this week
so Renato and I can talk directly. And we --
QUESTION: If I could follow on that --
SECRETARY POWELL: Hold on, hold on. Pushy, pushy. Now I forgot the question.
QUESTION: The question was --
SECRETARY POWELL: Jane, pick it up.
QUESTION: The Taliban -- you just said a little earlier that there will be communication
but you would prefer not to characterize it, yet yesterday I think you said
that in a couple of days the United States would be talking to the Taliban.
Are you suggesting here that the first communication will be military rather
than anything else?
SECRETARY POWELL: No. I think both statements are consistent -- communication,
QUESTION: So when will the United States be talking to the Taliban? Will we
be sending someone in from Islamabad?
SECRETARY POWELL: That's what I also said today, that I am not prepared to comment
on the modalities or when or under what set of circumstances or what the nature
of the communication will be, because that is still being resolved.
Okay, Barbara. Do you remember what the question was? I remember the answer.
QUESTION: I do. The second part of the question -- forgive me, as an ex-New
Yorker -- was about Israel. Ariel Sharon has not been terribly helpful, it seems,
in this. A lot of Arab countries are saying we have to do something about this
conflict and we have to restrain Sharon or a coalition isn't going to fly.
SECRETARY POWELL: I think we do have to do something about the situation in
the Middle East. I carve out part of my day to press and work on that. Prime
Minister Sharon and I had a very long phone conversation last night, and we
talked about his latest approach of his son and an official from the Ministry
visiting with Chairman Arafat and talking about how this series of meetings
could get started.
And I never lose sight of the fact that one of the underlying continuing problems
we will have -- we had it before 11 September, we're going to have it for the
foreseeable future -- is that we have to get into the Mitchell plan and we have
to get back to negotiations in due course. And so I can assure you I haven't
taken the United States' eye off that ball.