Op with the Cabinet
Discusses Humanitarian and War Efforts
The Cabinet Room
The Whiet House
November 19, 2001
4:12 P.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: We just had a very productive Cabinet meeting. We discussed a
variety of subjects, spent a fair amount of time on the war and the progress
we're making in Afghanistan. We have made great progress there, but there's
still a lot of work to do. And the degree of difficulty is increasing as we
work hard to achieve our objectives, not the least of which is to bring the
al Qaeda to justice.
They're running and they're trying to hide, and we're in pursuit. And we will
stay the course until we bring them to justice. The American people must know
it may take longer than some anticipate. They also need to know that we're a
very patient group.
Secondly, we've been briefed by Andrew Natsios of the USAID about the humanitarian
aid mission. And that, too, is a tough mission. There are millions of Afghans
who were starving prior to September the 11th as a result of drought. Obviously,
to complicate matters, there has been a war in that land. And yet, this good
nation is doing everything we can to move enormous amounts of food into the
areas where people are likely to starve.
I'm talking about thousands of tons, metric tons of food. There are over 2,000
trucks now in place that are able to move more freely now that the Northern
Alliance and our military have liberated the northern part of Afghanistan where
the starvation is most likely to occur.
And so we've had a great discussion. And I'm proud of the way our Cabinet has
been performing during these very difficult periods.
I'd be glad to answer a few questions. John, have you got one?
QUESTION: Mr. President, your Secretary of State a little while ago said that
he would use U.S. influence to try to bring the two sides together and forge
a Middle East peace. Wouldn't it be swifter, sir, if you used the power of your
office to do it personally, by meeting with these individuals? And at what point
would you do that?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, John, first of all, this administration has been working
the Middle East ever since we came into office. I've been on the phone with
the Prime Minister of Israel, our longtime friend, a lot, as has the Secretary
of State. We've been dealing with the Europeans; all kinds of people are interested
in the Middle East, reminding them that it takes willing parties, it takes --
people must say that they want to work for peace.
And so our objective is to convince both parties to make a conscious decision
to come to the peace table. And when they do so, we're more than willing to
help. But first things first; is to convince the parties that peace is necessary.
It also is important for us to remind Mr. Arafat that in order for the peace
discussions to begin, that the level of violence must substantially be reduced.
And so we're working hard with not only the Palestinians, but as well as with
others who have an interest in the area to work to reduce violence, so that
peace discussions can begin in relative security.
Our mind is, of course, on the war in Afghanistan, but it hasn't diverted our
attention away from the need to work hard to bring peace to the Middle East.
And we would hope to be able to do so.
QUESTION: Mr. President, there have been reports out of Afghanistan that the
U.S. military knows or thinks they know where bin Laden might be. Does that
THE PRESIDENT: I certainly hope so.
QUESTION: Does that mean the fellow to your left knows? And how soon might America
see bin Laden --
THE PRESIDENT: Listen, if our military knew where Mr. bin Laden was, he would
be brought to justice. We're hunting him down. He runs and he hides. But as
we've said repeatedly, the noose is beginning to narrow, the net is getting
tighter. But this is a difficult assignment. Things happened very quickly in
Afghanistan recently, as -- went to show that our strategy was a well-thought-out
strategy. But the objective is yet to be achieved, and we're not leaving until
we do achieve the objective.
And the Secretary of Defense and General Tommy Franks, who is doing a magnificent
job, understand the objective. We talk about it every single morning. And we
will achieve the objective. But I've told the American people right from the
get-go of this effort, it may take a month, it may take a year, or however long
it takes, we'll succeed.
QUESTION: Sir, what can you do personally to jump-start negotiations further
on an economic stimulus package? And do you still need one?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think we need an economic stimulus package. I've said
so from the beginning. I'll be meeting a week from tomorrow with the leadership
of the Senate and the House, and urge the senators to bring a bill to the floor
and to get it into conference, so we can resolve whatever differences there
There was a period of time when people said we'd never get an airline security
bill. And after a lot of hours of hard work, we got a good bill, which I signed
today. And I hope I'll be able to sign an economic stimulus package -- I think
I will be able to do so. But it's going to require the senators to come together
and move a bill, and then we can reconcile the differences with the House version.
QUESTION: Mr. President, you just said the noose is getting tighter. Without
compromising the search, do you have evidence you're getting closer to bin Laden?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, it's going to be hard for me to tell you that without compromising
the search, except I can point to the map of Afghanistan where more and more
territory are now in friendly hands. And the people of Afghanistan understand
what al Qaeda and the Taliban government have meant to their ordinary lives.
Women are treated lower than low. There's no respect for human life. There's
jubilation in the cities that we have liberated. And the sooner al Qaeda is
brought to justice, the sooner Afghanistan will return to normal. People understand
And so we've got -- let me put it to you this way -- the more territory we gain,
the more success there is on the ground, the more people we've got looking to
help us in our mission. The Secretary of Defense is doing everything he can,
as are our military, to bring these people to justice, and we will.
MR. DICKENS: Thank you all. Lights. Thank you all.
THE PRESIDENT: Go ahead, Terry.
QUESTION: On the subject of justice, what do you say to the members of Congress
and people in law schools and civil liberties --
THE PRESIDENT: On what subject?
QUESTION: On justice, that your order establishing military --
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
QUESTION: -- to try terrorists, they argue represents a retreat or an abandonment
of traditional American principles.
THE PRESIDENT: I say it's the absolute right thing to do. And it is -- to set
up the option to use a military tribunal in the time of war makes a lot of sense.
We're fighting a war, Terry, against the most evil kinds of people. And I need
to have that extraordinary option at my fingertips. I ought to be able to have
that option available should we ever bring one of these al Qaeda members in
alive. It's our national interests, it's our national security interests we
have a military tribunal available. It is in the interests of the safety of
potential jurors that we have a military tribunal.
These are extraordinary times. And I would remind those who don't understand
the decision I made that Franklin Roosevelt made the same decision in World
War II. Those were extraordinary times, as well.
This government will do everything we can to defend the American people within
the confines of our Constitution. And that's exactly how we're proceeding. And
so, to the critics, I say, I made the absolute right decision.
MR. DICKENS: Thank you all.
THE PRESIDENT: (Turning toward Secretary Rumsfeld) -- Do you know where al Qaeda