Jobs and Growth Plan in Indiana
May 13, 2003
10:15 A.M. CDT
Thanks a lot for the warm welcome. I'm so grateful so many of my fellow citizens
have shown up this morning. Thanks for coming. I'm here to discuss some of
the challenges that this nation faces and to let you know I'm optimistic we
can overcome anything in our path. (Applause.)
We have a challenge to make sure that we have economic security here at home.
That's one of the challenges we face, and I will discuss that challenge. We
also have a challenge to protect our fellow citizens from terrorism.
Today's attacks in Saudi Arabia, the ruthless murder of American citizens
and other citizens, remind us that the war on terror continues. My thoughts
and prayers and those of our fellow citizens are with the families of the victims
of yesterday's murder in Saudi Arabia. We pray for them. We mourn the loss
of life. These despicable acts were committed by killers whose only faith is
hate. And the United States will find the killers and they will learn the meaning
of American justice. (Applause.)
I want to thank the Chairman, Dick Lugar, for his service to our country
and for his friendship. He's a fine, fine man. (Applause.) A member of my
Cabinet has joined us here today, my man, Mitch. (Applause.) Mitch Daniels
has been a good friend, a close advisor, and I'm going to miss him. Washington's
loss, however, will be the gain of the people of Indiana. He's a fine fellow.
I appreciate very much that Governor O'Bannon has joined us today. Mr. Governor,
thank you for coming. I'm honored you are here. (Applause.) And I'm appreciative
that Indiana's other Senator, Senator Evan Bayh has joined us, as well. Senator,
thanks for coming. (Applause.) I appreciate you coming.
I'm proud that members of the Indiana congressional delegation have joined
us, as well. Chris Chocola, from up north, has come to be with us today. (Applause.)
Steven Buyer, Congressman Buyer is with us today. (Applause.) Congressman Dan
Burton is with us today. (Applause.) Congressman Mike Pence is with us today.
(Applause.) And I'm also very pleased that Congresswoman Julia Carson is with
us, as well. (Applause.)
We've got members of the statehouse who are with us. The state attorney general
is with us, and other members of the statehouse -- thanks for coming. Mr. Mayor
of Indiana -- Indianapolis, I'm honored you are here, that Mayor Peterson has
taken time out of his day to greet me. (Applause.)
I just had the honor of talking to some of your citizens about what tax relief
will mean to them. I'm going to talk about some of them a little later on.
But I want to thank you all so very much for taking time out of your day to
kind of tell me what life's all about here. (Laughter.)
Last night when I landed I met a lady named Elizabeth Hamilton. She is --
the reason I bring up Elizabeth is because I want you to understand that the
true strength of America is not our military or our ability to bomb people.
The great strength of our country is the fact that we love each other. (Applause.)
The great strength of America is that we're a compassionate nation. (Applause.)
There's been a lot of talk about our military, but I want you to remember
that the thing that makes this nation strong is the fact that we have citizens
like Elizabeth Hamilton who are willing to love somebody just like they'd like
to be loved themselves. You see, Elizabeth is a reading tutor. She's willing
to take time out of her life to help a child learn to read. She understands
a society -- a hopeful society is one in which we work hard to save lives,
one person at a time. (Applause.)
She -- not only that, but she works at the Chris DeMor (phonetic) House, which
is a house -- a center aiming to serve people in need, to help people who hurt.
Elizabeth, thank you for coming. I'm honored you're here. Please stand up.
(Applause.) And for any of you who want to follow the path of Elizabeth Hamilton
-- we've got what's called the USA Freedom Corps. You can look it up on the
Internet if you're interested in helping somebody in need. If you really want
to make this country a strong country, volunteer. Help somebody who hurts.
Love a neighbor just like you'd like to be loved yourself. (Applause.)
This nation has been tested. For 20 months, we have waged a relentless campaign
against global terror. You see, the enemy hit us, and they didn't realize the
nature of this country. They probably thought we would just fold our tents
and go home. They don't understand America. They don't understand how much
we love freedom. They don't understand how much we cherish -- (applause). They
probably thought we would forget. But anytime anybody attacks our homeland,
anybody -- anytime anybody attacks our fellow citizens, we'll be on the hunt,
and we'll find them, and they will be brought to justice. (Applause.) Just
ask the Taliban. (Laughter.)
We went into Afghanistan, not all that long ago when you think about it, to
uphold a doctrine that said, if you harbor a terrorist, if you hide a terrorist,
if you feed a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorist and you'll
be held to account. (Applause.)
So we, along with a vast coalition, went into Afghanistan to bring people
to justice, but also to free people from the clutches of one of the most barbaric
regimes in modern history. And now, thanks to the United States of America,
and a lot of our friends, young girls go to school for the first time. I'm
proud of this country and what we stand for. (Applause.)
I figured we've destroyed about one-half of al Qaeda, the top operators of
al Qaeda. And that's good. But we've got more work to do. And the other half
are going to get on the run, and we will find them. In order to protect this
homeland, the best way to protect the homeland is to hunt down anybody who
would do harm to Americans and bring them to justice, and precisely what we're
going to do in America. (Applause.)
We will be patient and we'll be relentless, because that is our obligation
to future generations of Americans -- an obligation which says that we must
work hard to make sure people can grow up in freedom and peace in this country.
We also waged another battle in the war against terror when we liberated the
people of Iraq from the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein. (Applause.) Thanks
to our United States military and coalition forces, America is now more secure,
the world will be more peaceful, and the Iraqi people are free. (Applause.)
America is proud of our military. (Applause.) We are proud of their skill;
we're proud of their courage; we're proud of people like Army Corporal Damian
Luten (phonetic), who went to high school right here in Indianapolis. On March
23rd, he was in a supply convoy in Iraq that came under attack. He was wounded.
He was taken prisoner, and, thank God, he was rescued. (Applause.) He now has
the Purple Heart. But, more importantly, he, like everybody else who wears
our uniform, has the gratitude of the United States of America. (Applause.)
And I know our troops are grateful for the support they found in places like
Indianapolis. (Applause.) At the public library on Washington Street, a group
of grandmothers got together and knitted scarves for our soldiers to keep the
desert sand out of their eyes. What struck me was what 72-year-old Tilly Caldwell
had to say. And here's what she said -- her words, not mine -- "What else
are a bunch of old ladies going to do? -- (laughter) -- If I could, I would
be the first on the front line with a rifle." (Applause.) Whoever knows
Tilly, tell her I'm glad we're on the same side. (Laughter.)
We moved into Iraq, we removed the dictator, but we've got work to do. First,
we're going to help rebuild the country, make sure the people have got food
on the table, make sure the children can go to school, make sure those who
need medical supply can find medical supply. We're going to turn the lights
on all around the country so that life can return back to normal. And then
we'll work with the Iraqi people to have a government of, by, and for Iraqi
citizens. We'll work to make sure that democracy takes hold, because we believe
people everywhere love freedom. And then we're coming home. (Applause.)
A free Iraq will make the world more peaceful, because, you see, when people
are free, they're less likely to promote terrorism. When people are free, they're
more likely to work to realize their aspirations in a positive way. Freedom
around the world will bring peace, and that's why America stands so strong
for free people everywhere across this globe. (Applause.)
We will work hard to make sure the homeland is secure and freedom prevails.
And, likewise, we'll work home -- to make sure everybody can find work in America.
I saw the other day that the unemployment rate went to 6 percent. That should
be a clear signal to reluctant members of the United States Congress that we
need an aggressive economic growth plan so people can find work. (Applause.)
People can say -- they say, well, if the unemployment rate is going up, how
can you be optimistic? And my answer is, because we've overcome a lot and we're
still growing. I want to remember what this nation has been through. First
of all, in March of 2000, the stock market started going down. That affected
a lot of people because we're an ownership society. Now, over 50 percent of
our fellow citizens have got an interest in the stock market. You either own
stock directly or your pension plan owns stock. If you're a police officer
-- and thank you for serving your community, by the way -- you've got interest
in the stock market because of your pension plans. If you're a retired teacher,
you've got interest. If you're a retired citizen, you've probably got some
interest in the market. And the market started going down in March of 2000.
And then our nation went into a recession, starting January 1st of 2001. That
means three quarters of negative growth, three quarters of going backwards.
And then, just as it looked like things were kind of getting better, the enemy
hit us. That affected America; it affected us deeply. It hurt our economy in
a lot of ways. We started getting settled down after that.
And then it became clear, over the past years, some of our citizens forgot
what it meant to be a responsible citizen. Some CEOs around our country forgot
what it meant to be responsible in their jobs. They didn't tell the truth to
employees and shareholders alike. (Applause.) They will learn a lesson, that
we expect people to be responsible in positions of authority. They will be
held to account. (Applause.) And this should serve as a lesson for people in
positions of responsibility. It should serve as a lesson for other chief executive
officers of corporate America that we expect there to be open accounting and
fair compensation packages. We expect there to be responsible behavior in America's
corporate boardrooms. (Applause.)
Now, we've been working our way through problems. And in spite of those problems,
we're growing. As a matter of fact, we're growing more than most other countries
in the industrialized world. And that's positive news. What isn't positive
is the fact that too many of our fellow citizens are looking for work. What's
not positive is some of your fellow citizens are saying, what can I do to put
food on the table for my family. And when people are looking for work, it says,
we've got a problem and we need to do something about it.
And so I went to the United States Congress and said, here's my plan, here's
what I want you to consider. I want you to consider how to make this economy
grow. I want there to be one thing in your mind when it comes to debating what's
right or wrong, and it's not politics, it's helping people find a job in the
United States of America. (Applause.)
And I've put a plan out that recognizes our strengths. First of all, the entrepreneurial
spirit is strong in America. This is a country where if you've got a dream
and are willing to work for it, you can achieve that dream. And we've got to
keep that entrepreneurial spirit strong in this great country. (Applause.)
Interest rates are low. That's a strength that helps the homeowner either
buy a home or refinance a home. We want people owning their homes in America.
And interest rates -- low interest rates help people own a precious asset like
a home. Inflation is down, which is positive. But the best thing we've got
going for us is we're the most productive work force in the world. Our workers
are the best in the world. (Applause.)
That's good news, and it can be bad news. And one of the reasons it's bad
news is, the more productive the work force -- in other words, each worker
can produce more goods and services per hour -- it means you'd better increase
the demand for goods and services if you want to increase employment. The more
productive we are, the more the economy has to grow in order for somebody to
The best way to encourage -- increase demand for goods and services is to
let people keep more of their own money. (Applause.) You see, when somebody
has more of their own money, they're likely to make a decision on a good or
a service. They say, I want more of this, or, I need an additional good, in
which case somebody is likely in our system to produce it. And when somebody
meets that demand by additional production, somebody is more likely to find
a job. And we're here to talk about one thing -- jobs. That's what we're here
to talk about.
So I submitted a plan to the United States Congress that focuses on jobs.
First of all, when the key parts of this plan is that it understands who's
money we're talking about. Sometimes in Washington, you hear the rhetoric,
well, we're spending the government's money. Now, you don't spend the government's
money in Washington. We're spending your money. It's your money we're talking
And so I said, let's let the people keep more of their own money. In 2001,
the Congress responded. It cuts rates on everybody. That's fair. If you're
going to cut the rates, you cut them on everybody. Government shouldn't pick
and choose winners when it comes to tax relief. Secondly, it said the marriage
is not a good thing. We ought to encourage marriage, not discourage marriage.
(Applause.) And the third aspect of the plan, I said we ought to increase the
child credit from $600 to $1,000 per child. (Applause.)
And so, Congress listened in 2001 and passed the plan, except they phased
it in over a period of years. And my attitude is this -- if the economy is
hurting today, if we've got some of our fellow citizens looking for work, instead
of waiting five years, let's do it today. (Applause.) The person looking for
a job doesn't care what happens five years from now. The person looking for
a job wants the economy to grow today. For the sake of economic vitality, Congress
has got to act, and act boldly, on this plan to get more of your own money
back to you.
And people, you'll hear all the time in Washington, they'll say, well, this
is only for a certain class of people. That's the old, tired, stale class warfare
argument. (Applause.) A family of four making $40,000 a year would see their
federal tax bill go down from $1,178 a year to $45. (Applause.) That's a family
of four, making $40,000. And that's $1,000 not just for one year, but for years.
And it gives that family a chance to plan. It basically says that family can
use their money the way they see fit. After all, it's your money to begin with.
This plan is important for the small business growth. It's important to kind
of keep that entrepreneurial spirit strong in America. And I'll tell you why.
Most small businesses pay tax at the individual income tax rate level. Most
small businesses are limited liability corporations and, therefore, they pay
tax at the individual rate -- or, subchapter-S corporations, or sole proprietorships.
Your mom-and-pop small business is more likely to pay tax at the individual
income tax rate. And, therefore, when you lower those rates, when you lower
all rates, what you're really doing is injecting capital into the treasuries
of American small businesses. And the reason that's important is most new jobs
are created by small businesses in America. (Applause.)
So when you hear the debate about reducing all tax rates, I want you to remember
that a crucial part of this plan focuses on the American entrepreneur and the
small businesses. And part of the plan says, we're going to raise the amount
of money that a small business can deduct on a capital expenditure. In other
words, if you buy new equipment right now, you can only deduct up to $25,000.
So we're saying you ought to be able to deduct up to $75,000. (Applause.)
Yesterday I -- it is clear we've got some small business owners with us, who
understand the limitations placed on investment. (Applause.) Well, if that's
the case, you're some of the 497,000 small businesses right here in the state
of Indiana. It seems like to me you're a good place to be a small business
owner, which is exciting.
I was yesterday -- started in Albuquerque, and met a fellow who started his
own garage. And he started with two employees, now he's got -- I forgot how
many he said, a couple of dozen, which is incredibly positive. He said to me,
with the increase on the ability to write off more of my capital investment,
I'm going to increase my garage space, which means somebody has got to provide
the concrete to pour the foundation, somebody has got to figure out where to
buy the metal, somebody has got to make the metal. Then he's going to need
some extra employees to make sure the garage space isn't empty.
In other words, what I'm telling you is, is that by encouraging small businesses
to invest capital, really what we're doing is we're increasing the ability
for somebody to find work. The more people are buying goods and products in
our society, the more production there will be of those goods and products,
and the more likely is one of your fellow citizens who's looking for work will
be able to find a job. This is all about jobs. (Applause.)
And the final aspect of the jobs and growth package is to get rid of the double-taxation
on dividends. (Applause.) And there are a lot of reasons why we should. First
of all, it's fair to tax corporate profits. If a company makes money, it is
fair that we collect a tax from that company. It doesn't seem fair to me, however,
that if the company distributes a share of those profits to the owners, small
and large alike, that we ought to tax the profit again. That's not fair. (Applause.)
As a result of the double-taxation, shareholders who receive a dividend keep
as little as 40 cents on the dollar earned, which raises the cost of capital.
It makes raising capital more expensive, and that's not good for society which
is interested in creating more jobs. It doesn't make sense to tax anything
twice. It certainly doesn't make any sense to tax anything twice and, therefore,
make it harder for somebody to raise capital necessary to expand their business,
so somebody can find work.
It is very important, also, to realize the reform aspects of encouraging companies
to pay dividends. If you get rid of the double-taxation of dividends, more
companies will pay dividends.
We just went through a period of time when some of our corporate citizens
said, invest in my company because I've got an interesting story. I would call
that the pie-in-the-sky economic period. You know, bet on us; even though we
don't have any cash, we've still got an interesting tale to tell. You know,
the new economy. The problem is, the new economy was affected by old accounting
practices. And when companies didn't have any money, eventually they went out
of business. Well, if you have a dividend-paying society, you can tell an interesting
story, but you also better have enough cash to back your story up. A dividend
society is one that says, we've got a good story, but we also have got enough
success where we can distribute cash to the owners on a quarterly basis. A
good corporate reform will be to encourage companies to back up their performance
with cash distribution to the owners. (Applause.)
And who are the owners? The owners are from all walks of life. I've just told
you we're an ownership society. If you have a pension plan, you're a -- you
own stock. If you have a -- if you're a retired teacher, you're interested.
There's a 177,000 seniors in this day who rely upon dividends to meet their
Oh, I've heard the rhetoric coming out of Washington, this is only for rich
people, that's why he's doing it. Well, Janet Herke I met today. She has six
grandchildren. Every month she sets aside $100 to help her children eventually
pay for her grandchildren's education. She is a responsible citizen. She's
retired. She relies upon dividend income. Getting rid of the double-taxation
of dividends will save this good lady $1,800 a year, for the out-years, as
well. And the savings mean this to her -- this is what she said -- "I
want to pass along what I've invested and save for my kids and grandkids, because
they are the most important things in my life." Now, you tell Janet that
this getting rid of the double-taxation of dividends is only for rich people.
I met with Wilbur and Doris Richards. (Applause.) I met with the Richards'.
Wilbur is an Army veteran. He helped liberate World War II -- Europe in World
War II. Doris worked in local schools here. They worked hard. The proposal
would cut their taxes by 70 percent, and at $800 more a year, which would help
them pay for health insurance. It certainly eases the pressures that now exist
on their life. Wilbur says he gets the most out of everybody. And my tax relief
plan would give him and seniors like him more bucks to work with -- his words,
not mine. (Applause.)
Dena Kerhoulas is here with us. She's the lady who's got the same hair style
as my mother. (Laughter.) And sounds just about as feisty. (Laughter.) Right
after September the 11th, here's what she did -- September the 11th, 2001,
she bought more stocks, because, she said, I wanted to show them they don't
have us whipped. (Applause.) She has stocks that pay dividends, like a lot
of seniors do. These aren't overly rich people. They're rich in spirit, but
they're what we call average in wealth. She'd save $2,000 a year, money she
could use; money that when she spends, will help somebody find work.
I met the Grubbs family and the Knights. Same story over and over again all
across America. Getting rid of the double-taxation of dividends will help our
senior citizens, and that's good policy. (Applause.)
I proposed an aggressive plan, because I want more people working. I proposed
a plan where the -- some economists say will add a million new jobs by the
end of 2004. We don't need tepid steps in Washington, D.C.; we need plans that
will get this economy growing strong so our fellow citizens can find a job.
There's all kinds of reasons why people don't want to support a strong plan.
One of the most -- one of the ones you hear the most about is that it will
cause a deficit. Let me discuss that with you right quick, if you don't mind.
Sure, we're in deficit. We're in deficit. We're in deficit because we went
through a recession. I explained to you what the country had been through.
The stock market went down, starting in March of 2000. That means less revenues
coming into our Treasury when people sold their stocks. We went through a recession,
which means the economy slowed down to the point where there's less revenue
coming into the Treasury. Yes, we're in deficit because we've got less money
We're also in deficit because I made a promise to the people who wear the
uniform of the United States military, if we put you in harm's way, we will
spend what is ever necessary to make sure we win. (Applause.)
We will deal with the deficit. There's a couple ways to deal with it. One
way is to raise your taxes, and that's not going to happen. (Applause.) The
other way is to do two things. One is to control spending. (Applause.) It's
to be responsible with your money. It's to send clear priorities, and say to
the Congress, here are the guidelines, here's what we expect you to -- here's
what we expect you to honor, and that is, in this case, no more than 4 percent
increase in discretionary spending. In other words, there needs to be fiscal
sanity in Washington, D.C. -- (applause) -- and at the same time, have policies
which grow the economy so we can get more revenues coming into the Treasury.
If you're interested in the deficit, you ought to be supporting fiscal discipline
on the one hand, and aggressive policies to make sure people can find work
on the other hand. (Applause.)
I'm optimistic we're going to make good progress in Washington. I want to
thank the House of Representatives for voting on a good plan. It's a good start.
And now it's up to the Senate to follow suit. I believe the Senate, when they
hear from you, will follow suit. (Applause.) I believe the people in the elected
office need to hear from our citizens. (Applause.)
I look forward to signing a good bill, one that will help people get back
to work. I look forward to signing a good piece of legislation which will rekindle
the entrepreneurial spirit of this country. I look forward to signing a bill
that will help America remain strong. And there's no doubt in my mind we will.
I'm confident that the future that lies ahead is a positive future for all
our citizens. I'm confident that because of the United States of America, the
world will be more free. I'm confident that if we remain strong like I know
we will, the world will be more secure. And I'm confident, thanks to the strength
and the compassion of our country, the world will be more peaceful. And the
reason I'm so confident is I realize that I'm the President of the greatest
nation on the face of the world. (Applause.)
Thank you all for coming. God bless, and God bless America. (Applause.)