Op with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
The Oval Office
The White House
February 7, 2002
6:25 P.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: I'm going to make a statement; the Prime Minister will make a
statement. We both have agreed we'll answer two questions from both sides. I'll
call on somebody; the Prime Minister's press aide will call on somebody, and
that's the way we're going to do it.
So it's my honor to welcome a good friend, the Prime Minister of Israel, back
to the Oval Office. Mr. Prime Minister, I'm so glad you're here. Welcome back.
We just had an extensive discussion, first about our mutual desire to rid the
world of terror. I assured him that our nation is just beginning in a great
objective, which is to eliminate those terrorist organizations of global reach.
And by doing so, I firmly believe that the world will be a more peaceful place.
My most important objective is to protect our homeland. The best way to do so
is to rout terrorist organizations where they try to hide and bring them to
Secondly, I assured the Prime Minister that we will continue to keep pressure
on Mr. Arafat to convince him that he must take serious concrete, real steps
to reduce terrorist activity in the Middle East.
We had an interesting discussion about how we can help the Palestinian, those
who aren't involved with terror. I'm deeply concerned about the plight of the
average Palestinian, the moms and dads who are trying to raise their children,
to educate their children. My government is -- I've got $300 million in the
budget to go through NGOs to help Palestinians be able to realize a better life.
And, finally, we had a good discussion about how best to work together to get
the Mitchell process started, to get into Tenet and then in Mitchell. In other
words, that we had wide-ranging discussions not only about international terror,
but security, about economic development for the Palestinians, as well as for
the desire to achieve -- to get into Mitchell so that there can be some long-lasting
peace in the region.
And so, Mr. Prime Minister, I appreciate the candid discussion. I appreciate
your friendship, and I want to welcome you back.
PRIME MINISTER SHARON: Thank you, Mr. President. I was very glad to be again
at the White House. We had discussions about strategic issues in the region.
We talked about the need to fight terror and not to get into compromise with
terror -- one cannot get into compromise with terror. At the same time, we discussed
steps that should be taken in order to improve the life conditions of those
Palestinians that are not involved in terror. That's my intention. It was always
my intention. And, of course, we'll try and see what can be done.
And, altogether, I think that we can look forward with optimism, though it's
not going to be a short struggle against terror. It's a long struggle. But I'm
sure that we will win, as I have a real admiration, Mr. President, for the steps
that you have been taking against terror, in order to defend our values.
QUESTION: Mr. President --
THE PRESIDENT: Hold on a second. And I'm going to do the calling on who gets
the question. He's not through yet.
Are you through?
PRIME MINISTER SHARON: Is there any questions?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, there's going to be -- (laughter.)
Barry Schweid. (Laughter.) I'm the control guy. (Laughter.)
QUESTION: I'm new at this.
THE PRESIDENT: Welcome. (Laughter.) You don't look that new to me, Barry. But,
QUESTION: I did your Dad.
THE PRESIDENT: That's right.
QUESTION: At this point, sir, is there a point for the U.S. to talk to Mr. Arafat? Is
there a point for Israel to talk to Arafat?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, Mr. Arafat has heard from us. I can't be any more clear
in my position, and that is that he must do everything in his power to fight
Obviously, we were, at first, surprised, and then extremely disappointed when
the Karine-A showed up loaded with weapons, weapons that could have only been
intended for one thing, which was to terrorize. And I made our government's
position about as clear as I could. I couldn't say it any more plainly, and
I haven't changed my position.
And as to what the Prime Minister's position is, he can answer that.
PRIME MINISTER SHARON: I personally, myself and my government, regard Arafat
as an obstacle to peace. Arafat has chosen a strategy of terror and formed a
coalition of terror. Therefore, we believe that pressure should be put on Arafat
in order, maybe, I hope, to have an authoritative leadership in the future.
QUESTION: Mr. President, the Israeli Defense Minister said today that Ms. Condoleezza
Rice and also your Vice President Cheney said that they don't trust Arafat,
they don't believe any words coming out of his mouth, and there's no point keeping
talking to him. Do you think, as those officials, that there is a point to keep
talking to him, to be in contact with him? Or do you think it is time to change
the phase in the pressure on Arafat?
THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Arafat has heard my message. I can't be any more clear about
it, that he must do everything in his power to reduce terrorist attacks on Israel.
And that -- at one point in time, he was indicating to us that he was going
to do so, and then all of a sudden, a ship loaded with explosives show up that
most of the world believes he was involved with.
And I think it's very important that people realize that this great nation wants
us to get into Mitchell as quickly as possible, but we fully understand that
it's difficult to have peace during terrorist times, and that our campaign against
global terror should help the region.
And I am absolutely committed to fighting terror wherever terror exists. And
I would hope other leaders do so. And Mr. Arafat has a chance to do so, and
my hope is, is that he responds in a positive way.
At the same time, I am deeply concerned about the plight of the average Palestinian.
I worry about stories and pictures I see of people going hungry and children
not being educated, and deep concerns etched on the faces of moms and dads who
happen to be Palestinian. And my government -- we've discussed this openly with
the Prime Minister -- and as I said, we budgeted money to go through non-governmental
organizations to help. And I think the world understands that there's a lot
of folks over there who suffer because of the terrorist activities of a few.
QUESTION: Mr. President, did Iran and Iraq figure in your conversations today with the
Prime Minister? And why are you sending Vice President Cheney to the region
next month, and particularly the four countries that directly border on Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: I'm sending the Vice President because, one, he is a key player
in our administration, and I want to get feedback from the world, from the world
leaders. I want them to see firsthand, as well, our strong intent to fight terror.
There's nothing like looking somebody in the eye and letting them know that
when we say we're going to fight terror, we mean it. And there's nothing like
people getting a sense of the determination of this government. There's a lot
of folks who might have predicted that over time we would grow weary and we'd
get tired and we'd kind of get faint of heart. The Vice President can deliver
the message to many important world leaders that our government is absolutely
committed to fighting terror, and we expect people to join us in doing so.
As I said, either you're with or you're against us. And we fully understand
that in order to be effective in our fight against terror, that we need others
to join us. And so the Vice President I think is going to be very effective
at convincing -- at convincing our friends we mean business. And we would hope
that they would do everything in their power to shut off money, to deny haven,
and to join this grand coalition dedicated to one thing -- freedom and peace.
As to whether or not we discussed other countries in the region -- you bet.
We discussed a lot of countries in the region. And we've had a very frank and
QUESTION: President Bush, the government of Israel decided not to let Chairman Arafat
move -- (inaudible.) Do you think this decision serves the goal of stability
in the Middle East?
And one question for you, Prime Minister Sharon. You said a couple of months
ago that you want to give the Palestinians a Palestinian state, for the first
time -- Do you still support the same --
THE PRESIDENT: Do you want to go first?
PRIME MINISTER SHARON: Yes. I believe that the end of the process first should
be the perfect right to be a full cessation of terror and violence and incitement.
And then several steps will be taken by the Palestinians, like arresting --
serious arrest of the terrorists, dismantling terrorist organizations and their
infrastructure, collecting their weapons that should be handed to American representatives
and destroyed out of the -- area. Once they would take serious preventive steps
and stop completely incitement, then we'll start negotiations.
I believe that one day we'll be reaching a peace. Israel is committed to peace.
And at the end of the process, I believe that the Palestinian state, of course,
will be -- we'll see a Palestinian state. But only at the end and the final
steps that should be taken in order to start negotiations. They cannot be done
under terror. We are -- my role and my government's role is to defend our citizens
against acts of terror.
THE PRESIDENT: We, too, of course, support a Palestinian state, one that's been
negotiated by the parties; one that recognizes that Israel has got a right to
exist, and Israel will be supportive of their right to self-govern. I think
that's an ultimate aim that we all have got to work hard to get to. The problem
is there are some that don't want to get there, and therefore, terrorize.
My position on Mr. Arafat is clear as of today. I can't be any more clear about
what I think he ought to do. And I'm confident if he were to make these strong
steps toward reducing terror, it would help the world -- it would help tell
the world that he is fully dedicated toward achieving the objectives that we
And it's going to be hard to have a peace process if -- so long as there's terrorist
activity. But we believe strongly that Chairman Arafat needs to put a 100 percent
effort to achieve a peaceful -- some peace, so that we can then get to a political
process. And that's very important for us.